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2018-10-15 (NLCS Game #3): Brewers (Chacín) at Dodgers (Buehler) 6:39 PM CDT [Brewers win, 4-0 -- Chacín w/ 5.1 IP, 3 Hits, 0 Runs, 6 Ks; Arcia Goes Deep Again]

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Posted: October 15, 2018, 9:31 PM Post
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To me it's not so much out of not trusting JJ. It was about usage. He's been worked a lot this year, threw a ton of pitches in the first games, maybe that's contributing to him being a bit off. Could've got him 2 days off. Also, with 3 games in a row, that would mean he could more easily go in both games 4 and 5. If he goes tomorrow he really can't Wednesday. That also applies to Hader. So while I know this was all about Hader being available tomorrow, it might've hurt you elsewhere.

Oh well, it worked and now Hader is available tomorrow. Get the W tomorrow and you're almost a lock to win.

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tmwiese55 said:
To me it's not so much out of not trusting JJ. It was about usage.


I agree about usage and I've also said I don't want to bench him completely, but they gotta stop forcing him out there. Trust has to be wavering somewhat though. He might recover if they stop acting like he's Mariano Rivera, but it's like they're insisting that this isn't actually happening to him. IT IS.

Almost 80 games and over 80 innings this year now. If they value him so much, why not just save him for tomorrow? They still seem to trust him as much as Hader, so why aren't they saving him too? 60 pitches this series now.


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How long does a guy have to average 4+ base-runners per inning before you're allowed to stop trusting him, seriously? How bad was Drake's WHIP or Feliz's when they bombed completely?


You are really underestimating how important Jeffress, and his success, is to this team's success. If he isn't this team's most important player, he is in the top 3. If he is bad, the Brewers are going to lose. It is in this team's best interest to get him right. Like it or not, or throw out some stat about how lucky he is, it doesn't matter. It is obvious this team is rolling with him.


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How long does a guy have to average 4+ base-runners per inning before you're allowed to stop trusting him, seriously? How bad was Drake's WHIP or Feliz's when they bombed completely?


More than 2 games. Especially when 2+ hits in each game were weak contact found a hole type of hits.


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Does JJ come in a 1 run game? I don't know. I doubt it. 4 run game was a perfect situation.

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homer said:
coolhandluke121 said:

How long does a guy have to average 4+ base-runners per inning before you're allowed to stop trusting him, seriously? How bad was Drake's WHIP or Feliz's when they bombed completely?


As recently as September the guy was en fuego. Had a 0.00 era for the month. Brewers need him to find it again. I don't think they can win this series if they decide to bench him when they are up four runs.


I still haven't suggested actually benching him. I've said many times they're using him too much and that's a factor in his struggles. Give him 2 days rest and hope he's right tomorrow. Give someone else a little work.


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coolhandluke121 said:
homer said:
coolhandluke121 said:

How long does a guy have to average 4+ base-runners per inning before you're allowed to stop trusting him, seriously? How bad was Drake's WHIP or Feliz's when they bombed completely?


As recently as September the guy was en fuego. Had a 0.00 era for the month. Brewers need him to find it again. I don't think they can win this series if they decide to bench him when they are up four runs.


I still haven't suggested actually benching him. I've said many times they're using him too much and that's a factor in his struggles. Give him 2 days rest and hope he's right tomorrow. Give someone else a little work.


Fair enough.

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I do agree that Jeffress should not pitch tomorrow.


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coolhandluke121 said:

How long does a guy have to average 4+ base-runners per inning before you're allowed to stop trusting him, seriously? How bad was Drake's WHIP or Feliz's when they bombed completely?


You are really underestimating how important Jeffress, and his success, is to this team's success. If he isn't this team's most important player, he is in the top 3. If he is bad, the Brewers are going to lose. It is in this team's best interest to get him right. Like it or not, or throw out some stat about how lucky he is, it doesn't matter. It is obvious this team is rolling with him.


"Stop trusting him" was an exaggeration but they are being real stubborn by forcing him out there with less than optimal rest when he's laboring so much. I know they have to rely on him sometimes but for god's sake trust someone else instead of using him so much. And at least give them a different look because they're clearly seeing his stuff well. It seems he's facing some of the same guys every time. That doesn't make any sense.


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homer said:
coolhandluke121 said:

How long does a guy have to average 4+ base-runners per inning before you're allowed to stop trusting him, seriously? How bad was Drake's WHIP or Feliz's when they bombed completely?


As recently as September the guy was en fuego. Had a 0.00 era for the month. Brewers need him to find it again. I don't think they can win this series if they decide to bench him when they are up four runs.


I still haven't suggested actually benching him. I've said many times they're using him too much and that's a factor in his struggles. Give him 2 days rest and hope he's right tomorrow. Give someone else a little work.

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How could Counsell be so smart so much of the time and do something so profoundly stupid now? This makes Yost look like a genius. OLIVE DRAKE WOULD BE A BETTER OPTION RIGHT NOW.


Yep. Never suggested. Not in the least.

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One thing I don't think can be understated here is Kratz in the 9th. I'm not sure JJ gets it done without him. Multiple mound visits, but man I think those visits went a long way in helping JJ get out of that mess. I don't mean to take away from JJ, he executed and got the job done...but Kratz deserves a significant amount of credit for helping him through...in my opinion.


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One thing I don't think can be understated here is Kratz in the 9th. I'm not sure JJ gets it done without him. Multiple mound visits, but man I think those visits went a long way in helping JJ get out of that mess. I don't mean to take away from JJ, he executed and got the job done...but Kratz deserves a significant amount of credit for helping him through...in my opinion.


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I think that Puig at-bat woke Jeremy up. Man Puig is such a turd. Between Puig and Machado, the Dodgers have a big pile of turds.


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Why is JJ sill pitching? The guy is a mental midget in high stress situations.


Come on, man. Not cool.


Too harsh of a comment, sure.
Yet, pitching Jeffress late without a net of Hader or Knebel is very questionable now. He needs to pitch a 6th inning for us or come in for a third of an inning.....


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Baldkin said:
coolhandluke121 said:
homer said:

As recently as September the guy was en fuego. Had a 0.00 era for the month. Brewers need him to find it again. I don't think they can win this series if they decide to bench him when they are up four runs.


I still haven't suggested actually benching him. I've said many times they're using him too much and that's a factor in his struggles. Give him 2 days rest and hope he's right tomorrow. Give someone else a little work.

coolhandluke121 said:
How could Counsell be so smart so much of the time and do something so profoundly stupid now? This makes Yost look like a genius. OLIVE DRAKE WOULD BE A BETTER OPTION RIGHT NOW.


Yep. Never suggested. Not in the least.


Please explain how that contradicts what I'm saying about him needing more rest. It was a stubborn, forced move by CC and he nearly had an all-time Bill Buckner of managers moment there.


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Joey Meyer Bombs said:
I think that Puig at-bat woke Jeremy up. Man Puig is such a turd. Between Puig and Machado, the Dodgers have a big pile of turds.


There's a hot take if I ever saw one!


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Orlando Arcia has transformed himself into a Brewers postseason legend after a terrible regular season and I love it. Drinking tonight was a good choice.


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I have off tomorrow, but work the next two days. Those late start times will suck. Especially if they are long games.

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Orlando Arcia has transformed himself into a Brewers postseason legend after a terrible regular season and I love it. Drinking tonight was a good choice.


That HR he hit was absolutely insane. That was either at the very top and away corner of the plate...or off the plate...and at 97! Are you friggin kidding me! That's a pitch you foul off and hope for a better one...not one you hit out. Incredible piece of hitting there.


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