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2019-06-22: Reds (Castillo) at Brewers (Chacín) [Brewers win, 6-5 -- New Look Lineup; Crew comes back from early 3-run deficit]

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Posted: June 22, 2019, 3:02 PM Post
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Also, when you're batting the pitcher 8th your cleanup guy isn't as important of a role. Your 2/3 hitters have the biggest role. I like the strategy and think it should result in more guys on base for Yelich and Moose.


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Posted: June 22, 2019, 3:04 PM Post
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yourout said:
The sooner they automate the strike zone the better.


False, the sooner they leave baseball the exact same and stop changing the game the better


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Posted: June 22, 2019, 3:04 PM Post
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yourout said:
The sooner they automate the strike zone the better.


Pitch 6 to Grandal should have been a ball, but pitch 4 should have been a strike.


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Posted: June 22, 2019, 3:06 PM Post
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TexasCheesehead said:
yourout said:
The sooner they automate the strike zone the better.


False, the sooner they leave baseball the exact same and stop changing the game the better


Sorry, change is happening regardless of how much you may hate it. The game has been evolving and changing for 150 years and will continue to do so.


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Posted: June 22, 2019, 3:07 PM Post
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adambr2 said:
TexasCheesehead said:
yourout said:
The sooner they automate the strike zone the better.


False, the sooner they leave baseball the exact same and stop changing the game the better


Sorry, change is happening regardless of how much you may hate it. The game has been evolving and changing for 150 years and will continue to do so.


Why not just watch robots play? Sounds fun.


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Posted: June 22, 2019, 3:08 PM Post
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If you can’t fully enjoy the game the way it is, you’re not a baseball fan. Arguing calls is part of baseball. People that complain about it are the reason a runner starts the inning at second base now in extras in the minors.


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Posted: June 22, 2019, 3:16 PM Post
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I don't think a machine calling balls and strikes changes much though. Just getting calls correct. We'll see less deception (or none) by players to influence a call.


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Posted: June 22, 2019, 3:19 PM Post
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TexasCheesehead said:
Why not just watch robots play? Sounds fun.


Why not just go back to the dead ball era if any change to the game of baseball is terrible? That was probably the biggest change to baseball ever. Sounds fun.


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Posted: June 22, 2019, 3:21 PM Post
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The starters have to average a run an inning over the last two weeks.


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TexasCheesehead said:
If you can’t fully enjoy the game the way it is, you’re not a baseball fan. Arguing calls is part of baseball. People that complain about it are the reason a runner starts the inning at second base now in extras in the minors.

So... is it fair to say that if you can't fully enjoy the game if they automate the strike zone, then you're no longer a baseball fan as well? There are literally about a thousand things I care more about keeping in tact in baseball than allowing umps to make incorrect calls.


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Posted: June 22, 2019, 3:24 PM Post
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TexasCheesehead said:
If you can’t fully enjoy the game the way it is, you’re not a baseball fan. Arguing calls is part of baseball. People that complain about it are the reason a runner starts the inning at second base now in extras in the minors.


Does this mean that if someone thinks a thing isn't perfect they don't like it at all? That's..... very odd thinking.


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I liked it better when baseball had only natural lighting from the Sun or Moon only!


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Posted: June 22, 2019, 3:29 PM Post
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I like having the pitchers hit because I think it adds something to the game. Umpires that can't handlr calling balls and Strikes add nothing to the game.


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Posted: June 22, 2019, 3:29 PM Post
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Shaw and Chacin both hitting .167 now.


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Posted: June 22, 2019, 3:35 PM Post
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Grandy is dandy on Saturday!


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Posted: June 22, 2019, 3:35 PM Post
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I know it is really easy to say given the current results, but this lineup seems fun.


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Posted: June 22, 2019, 3:41 PM Post
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timpep said:
TexasCheesehead said:
If you can’t fully enjoy the game the way it is, you’re not a baseball fan. Arguing calls is part of baseball. People that complain about it are the reason a runner starts the inning at second base now in extras in the minors.


Does this mean that if someone thinks a thing isn't perfect they don't like it at all? That's..... very odd thinking.


I’m not saying it’s perfect. I’m saying I love the imperfections. Using electronic technology has changed the game tremendously already with instant replay. I’m not a fan of altering the game, period. Since the dead ball era, very little has changed beyond changing the mound height and adding the DH (which I don’t like either). Taking away arguing calls and replacing it with a perfect system would take away the fun of debating them, which you might not find important but I do.


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Posted: June 22, 2019, 3:47 PM Post
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TexasCheesehead said:
timpep said:
TexasCheesehead said:
If you can’t fully enjoy the game the way it is, you’re not a baseball fan. Arguing calls is part of baseball. People that complain about it are the reason a runner starts the inning at second base now in extras in the minors.


Does this mean that if someone thinks a thing isn't perfect they don't like it at all? That's..... very odd thinking.


I’m not saying it’s perfect. I’m saying I love the imperfections. Using electronic technology has changed the game tremendously already with instant replay. I’m not a fan of altering the game, period. Since the dead ball era, very little has changed beyond changing the mound height and adding the DH (which I don’t like either). Taking away arguing calls and replacing it with a perfect system would take away the fun of debating them, which you might not find important but I do.


But not everyone feels the same way as you. Some people would just rather get the call right and let the players determine the outcome.

And the game has changed tremendously since the deadball era. Not all at once, and sometimes in small, subtle ways, but it's certainly a far cry from the game Ruth and Gerhig played. Even the way pitchers are used has changed tremendously just in the last 10 years.


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Posted: June 22, 2019, 3:50 PM Post
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Need at least a couple more to win


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Posted: June 22, 2019, 3:54 PM Post
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Yaz needs to worry less about framing and more about catching the ball.


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