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2019-06-25: Mariners (Gonzales) at Brewers (Davies) [Brewers lose, 8-3]

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Posted: June 25, 2019, 7:37 PM Post
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Here comes Wilkerson to save the day.

"You're not going to have him when you want him and you're going to run out of games. He can't pitch 90 games. It's just not going to work. If anyone thinks it's going to work, show me how."- Craig Counsell on Josh Hader.


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Posted: June 25, 2019, 7:38 PM Post
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Jopal78! said:
It’s not even the pitcher not going 5 innings; it’s the fact Davies buries the team early in the process. Now the bullpen has to cover 5 innings in a likely loss

I assume they will ride Wilkerson for awhile and then option him after the game. I would guess if it remains a blowout that Jimmy Nelson will likely throw some pitches tonight as well.


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Posted: June 25, 2019, 7:39 PM Post
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This really looks like a Doug Melvin roster; a bunch of soft tossing pitchers and a stars and scrubs lineup. We may have to consider seeing what we can get for Hader and maybe even Yelich.


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Posted: June 25, 2019, 7:40 PM Post
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Lefty starting Brewers dead. Simple. Can't wait to see Lester Hammels and Q against the Cubs. Should be fun.


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Posted: June 25, 2019, 7:40 PM Post
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This is so frustrating playing terrible baseball versus bottom feeders


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Posted: June 25, 2019, 7:41 PM Post
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brewers888 said:
This really looks like a Doug Melvin roster; a bunch of soft tossing pitchers and a stars and scrubs lineup. We may have to consider seeing what we can get for Hader and maybe even Yelich.

Whoa. You see how the Brewers treated Braun when he was a stud. Yelich getting a street named after him.


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Offline  Re: 2019-06-25: Mariners (Gonzales) at Brewers (Davies) 7:10 PM CDT
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Posted: June 25, 2019, 7:43 PM Post
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The only dude on the Mariners I even heard of is Santana and Dee Gordon.


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Posted: June 25, 2019, 7:43 PM Post
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Imagine the Brewers being 42-37 in 2004, with something to play for at the ASB, and someone suggests trading the MVP on pace for 60 HRs.


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Posted: June 25, 2019, 7:43 PM Post
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Jopal78! said:
It’s not even the pitcher not going 5 innings; it’s the fact Davies buries the team early in the process. Now the bullpen has to cover 5 innings in a likely loss


He didn't pitch well, but the defense buried them. If Arcia makes that play in the 3rd, evrything is different...perhaps pitch around Vogelbach and don't give up the homer...then obviously the 2 runs in the 4th were all on the defense.


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Posted: June 25, 2019, 7:44 PM Post
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The team got lucky with their pitching staff last year. Chacín has a career year, Miley revitalized his careee, Gio was a shot in the arm. Even Anderson was okay despite giving up a ton of homers.

This year they just don’t have the horses in the rotation, which subsequently exposes the middle inning relievers having to pitch earlier and more often


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Posted: June 25, 2019, 7:45 PM Post
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I would start by kicking Hook to the curb. Practically every pitcher on this staff has regressed badly under his watch.


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Posted: June 25, 2019, 7:46 PM Post
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I think most people recognized they did get lucky last year, but nobody expected consistent shelling like this. It's hard to say the offensive isn't a huge disappointment either outside of a couple guys.

If they didn't have 4 duds on offense they will probably still be +10 even with this pitching.


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brewers888 said:
I would start by kicking Hook to the curb. Practically every pitcher on this staff has regressed badly under his watch.


which, by the way, has nothing io do with the departure of Derek Johnson.


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Posted: June 25, 2019, 7:47 PM Post
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I agree we got some really good luch with the arms last year and then were hoping the young arms were ready to go which they were not so far. this leaves the team really thin in the rotation


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It's also pretty annoying to see how we have managed this roster. Not that it matters with this pitching staff getting crushed nearly every night but a supposed playoff contender should not have the best right handed bat in the organization in AAA while Shaw, Aguilar, and Perez flail away every night.


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Posted: June 25, 2019, 7:48 PM Post
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AAAAron Wilkerson will be all set for a 20 inning scoreless streak for the Missions after this one.


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And Wilkerson throws 24 pitches and counting. His lack of velocity with poor command means he’s never going to cut it in the majors


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Offline  Re: 2019-06-25: Mariners (Gonzales) at Brewers (Davies) 7:10 PM CDT
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Posted: June 25, 2019, 7:48 PM Post
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turborickey said:
brewers888 said:
I would start by kicking Hook to the curb. Practically every pitcher on this staff has regressed badly under his watch.


which, by the way, has nothing io do with the departure of Derek Johnson.


Nah we don't miss Johnson at all.


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Posted: June 25, 2019, 7:50 PM Post
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Davies has given up 15 earned in his last 16+innings.


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Posted: June 25, 2019, 7:50 PM Post
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turborickey said:
brewers888 said:
I would start by kicking Hook to the curb. Practically every pitcher on this staff has regressed badly under his watch.


which, by the way, has nothing io do with the departure of Derek Johnson.

Or the level of talent on the staff apparently.

but it's not like every guy suddenly forgot every piece of advice he gave


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