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2019-08-02: Brewers (Davies) at Cubs (Quintana) [Brewers lose, 6-2]

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Posted: August 02, 2019, 3:20 PM Post
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OldSchoolSnapper said:
Brewcrewin07 said:
Stearns's biggest flaw this far as GM is not paying for pitching. This is why i have said, the Brewers need to change their philosophy. It's pretty obvious they aren't going to develop TOR arms other than once in a blue moon, and you can't keep signing bottom of the barrel guys for the rotation. They need to spend all the money possible in FA to at least bring in ONE stud to anchor the rotation and fill in with as many value bats as you can find, and hope it works. That's the ONLY way I can ever see them winning a World Series under Stearns.



This makes zero sense. He's been the GM for like three years made it to Game 7 of the NLCS. Giving a pass on his first season, they'll probably have a winning record all three years and missed the playoffs by a game in his second. The strategy you're suggesting is basically what they did in their two "go for it" years with Melvin and basically had the same success one season. That's not a very strong argument that his strategy isn't working. In fact, I would say that it is, because with this staff you'd think this team is far worse than it really is. But they had so many problems, the pen falling apart and some black holes on offense, that all of it together just became insurmountable.


Melvin traded for two guys that were rentals...that's not what I'm talking about, at all...You have Hiura under control, he's cheap, Yelich for a couple more, Hader, Knebel, Grisham...if there was ever a time to go make a SERIOUS run at a stud starter in FA it's next year...Go ALL in on Gerritt Cole. Yes, you will have to massively overpay, but to have him anchor your staff(along with Woodruff) for the next 3 or 4 years while the talent you do have is still cheap...is the best way to do it, I think. Honestly, it was pure arrogance on Stearns's part to think that three young arms were all going to work out and they'd have a decent rotation. That was a risk he should have never taken. That was pure negligence. As was not replacing Knebel as soon as he went down. I'm just not sure how he couldn't have seen regression in guys coming...a lot of fans did. How come he didn't??

I told anyone that would listen before the season started that there was simply no way this rotation was going to work, you CANNOT possibly believe three young, inexperienced guys, and a soft tosser like Davies and a pitched way over his head Chacin was going to lead you were you wanted to go...yet for some reason he did.


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Posted: August 02, 2019, 3:20 PM Post
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What's the deal with Kintzler's glove? Anything?


Nothing I can see. Announcers are kind of baffled too. There are a couple of strings that fly but that goes for every players' glove and the color is just like a blue patch somewhere so I guess that's what it was? Either way, it was weird and clearly not a reason the Brewers couldn't hit because Yelich struck out on 3 pitches and Hiura weakly grounded out.

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Posted: August 02, 2019, 3:28 PM Post
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Pomeranz looks good. Might've won a series in Oakland had CC not been such a pansy.


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Well, that's a start. 2 more base runners needed before things get interesting...


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I'm fully expecting 3 runs this inning.


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It would be really cool if this guy stopped getting that strike called 4 inches off the plate.


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Posted: August 02, 2019, 3:38 PM Post
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Umpire definitely wants to get out of the sun. Oh well, saved us some pain.


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I mean, at some point, don't you just have to have a big inning, if nothing else just by accident?? This team REALLY needs one, sometime in the next two games would be fantastic. Also, will they EVER sweep a series again??


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When your unhittable closer gets hit and you lose the whole teams energy. Those two losses in Oakland were killers.They look like Mike Tyson in Tokyo when he started getting hit for the first time.


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Davies has really hit the “remember who you are” phase of the season

57-54. This season is just a disappointment. It just hasn’t been very fun.


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Better years are ahead! ... this year? ... gotta' keep positive ... disturbing and long-term trends continue, though.


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When your unhittable closer gets hit and you lose the whole teams energy. Those two losses in Oakland were killers.They look like Mike Tyson in Tokyo when he started getting hit for the first time.



The brewers were never mike Tyson.

More of like a Trevor berbick


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Davies has really hit the “remember who you are” phase of the season

57-54. This season is just a disappointment. It just hasn’t been very fun.

This more than anything. There have been worse brewers team but they have been fun or interesting. This team isn't good but more than anything they are boring and not fun to watch.


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willie key said:
Bulldogboy said:
When your unhittable closer gets hit and you lose the whole teams energy. Those two losses in Oakland were killers.They look like Mike Tyson in Tokyo when he started getting hit for the first time.



The brewers were never mike Tyson.

More of like a Trevor berbick



More like someone who cuts one on a windy day. Momentarily noticed but gone in a flash.


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Posted: August 02, 2019, 4:00 PM Post
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Jopal78! said:
willie key said:
Bulldogboy said:
When your unhittable closer gets hit and you lose the whole teams energy. Those two losses in Oakland were killers.They look like Mike Tyson in Tokyo when he started getting hit for the first time.



The brewers were never mike Tyson.

More of like a Trevor berbick



More like someone who cuts one on a windy day. Momentarily noticed but gone in a flash.


"Nothing more than a fart in the wind"-Ron Wolff


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Posted: August 02, 2019, 4:29 PM Post
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I think the mediocrity of this team is far beyond its fortunes turning on sending Hiura down when they shouldn't have.

At the time it seemed like a huge deal but looking at it now this is true.


I don't know how many games having Hiura down and Shaw up cost us in June, but if it's 2, this race looks much different and maybe our deadline moves are different.


Obviously there’s no way to quantify this, but here’s a few numbers and a guess.

When Hiura was called up on May 14 the Brewers record was 24-19.

When he was sent down on June 2 they were 34-26 (so 10-7 while he was up).

When he came back on June 28 they were 43-38 (9-12 while he was gone)

They are now 57-54 (14-16 since his return).

The Brewers are 24-23 with Hiura on the team and 33-31 without him.

I’m certainly not going to argue that sending Hiura down wasn’t a mistake. But, so many things about this team scream “.500 team” that it’s hard for me to believe that having him for all of June would have made that much of a difference in the big picture. There’s no point getting revved up about whether his presence would have won an extra game or two. Maybe he would have gotten a few big hits to turn around a close loss or maybe he would have made a critical error to lose a game. Since we’ll never know, why worry about it?


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Posted: August 02, 2019, 6:26 PM Post
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I had one miserable day at work today and didn't even realize that the Brewers played a day game (yes, I am a whiner!).

Looking at the box score....

So now I will go with the obvious. The Brewers have trouble enough with their pitching staff. If Davies and Jeffress both go in the tank, and it hasn't been pretty lately, I don't see anyway they can get a playoff spot. Yelich and Hiura's bats won't even be great enough to overcome this staff with two really key cogs not pitching well.


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