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2019-09-10: Brewers (Anderson) at Marlins (Hernández) [Brewers win 4-3 -- Yelich suffers season ending knee cap fracture]

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Posted: September 11, 2019, 12:13 AM Post
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adambr2 said:
Just watched the interview where Stearns breaks the news of the injury and the first question to him by a reporter:

"Just how devastating is this, David?"

[rolling eyes] [rolling eyes] [rolling eyes]


If only sarcasm could be used in interview. There are so many wonderfully inappropriate responses.

(#1) "Christian was a marginal, accessory piece to our playoff push and (#2) he was blocking a couple of significant prospects who we were trying to get playing time so (#3) this is actually a blessing. If he comes back before we hoist the WS trophy--sobeit--great for him but we can do it without him too (#4-#9).


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Posted: September 11, 2019, 5:01 AM Post
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yourout said:
So much for picking up a game.
Padres just gave up 3 on two bombs to tie it in the 8th at 8.



Meh, Cubs ended up losing. Amazing how this team is just 1 game back.

Even still...is ANYONE wishing right now that the Brewers would have made more aggressive trades at the deadline? I'm thrilled with how this team has played.


Wouldn't it just be fitting that this is the team that actually wins the World Series?


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Posted: September 11, 2019, 5:14 AM Post
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HiAndTight said:
yourout said:
So much for picking up a game.
Padres just gave up 3 on two bombs to tie it in the 8th at 8.



Meh, Cubs ended up losing. Amazing how this team is just 1 game back.

Even still...is ANYONE wishing right now that the Brewers would have made more aggressive trades at the deadline? I'm thrilled with how this team has played.


Wouldn't it just be fitting that this is the team that actually wins the World Series?


Yes and yes.


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Posted: September 11, 2019, 5:31 AM Post
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No, i was glad at the time and I’m still glad the Brewers did what they did at the deadline.

For one thing it isn’t clear who they could have gotten that would have been any better than Lyles, Pomeranz, and Black at a price they could have paid. And I’m really glad they didn’t unload Grandal.

I usually go along with the idea that anyone who makes the playoffs has a shot, but this Brewers team may be an exception. For starters, if they do get the second wild card spot, they’ll be looking at a game against the Nats and Patrick Corbin or Max Scherzer and an offense that hit them like a slow pitch softball team a couple of weeks ago. But, anything can happen, and maybe they win that game.

Then they would face the Dodgers and, with a 25 man roster, the chances of this team with no Yelich winning even 3 of 5 would be the longest of baseball long shots. There is a zero chance that a team with no starting pitchers than can go past 5 innings could get 11 playoff wins without scoring a ton of runs.

I’d rather put my chips on next year, hoping that the pitching staff will be stronger with the return of some pitchers from injury and the further development of others. Hopefully Yelich can come back next season and they can add to the lineup like they did with Moustakas and Grandal this year.

The Brewers didn’t sell off and give up completely on this year or sacrifice the future on a futile chase for a title this year. IMHO they did just the right thing.


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Posted: September 11, 2019, 5:40 AM Post
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With our without Yelich the Brewers still have only 3 games left against teams with a winning record, and a slew of games against last place clubs.

Sure they’re not going to win the World Series, but I think the 2nd wild card is there for the taking and to have the Brewers make back to back play off appearances would be a real achievement


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Posted: September 11, 2019, 6:14 AM Post
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Maybe this is the best way for me to articulate how I’m feeling today.

If you had two choices, which of these would you take:

1. The Brewers get the second wild card spot, but Yelich’s injury turns out to be serious enough that he will miss much or all of next season, and there is a question whether he will ever be quite the same player he has been the last two seasons because of lingering effects.

Or

2. The Brewers fail to make the playoffs this season, but Yelich is expected to make a full recovery and be ready to go at full strength next season.

For me it isn’t even a choice.


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Posted: September 11, 2019, 6:23 AM Post
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BruisedCrew said:
Maybe this is the best way for me to articulate how I’m feeling today.

If you had two choices, which of these would you take:

1. The Brewers get the second wild card spot, but Yelich’s injury turns out to be serious enough that he will miss much or all of next season, and there is a question whether he will ever be quite the same player he has been the last two seasons because of lingering effects.

Or

2. The Brewers fail to make the playoffs this season, but Yelich is expected to make a full recovery and be ready to go at full strength next season.

For me it isn’t even a choice.


I totally get the doom and gloom this morning, but this isn't even a logical choice. The two scenarios (the Brewers making the playoffs and Yelich's recovery time) have absolutely nothing to do with each other.


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Posted: September 11, 2019, 6:36 AM Post
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Joey Meyer Bombs said:
BruisedCrew said:
Maybe this is the best way for me to articulate how I’m feeling today.

If you had two choices, which of these would you take:

1. The Brewers get the second wild card spot, but Yelich’s injury turns out to be serious enough that he will miss much or all of next season, and there is a question whether he will ever be quite the same player he has been the last two seasons because of lingering effects.

Or

2. The Brewers fail to make the playoffs this season, but Yelich is expected to make a full recovery and be ready to go at full strength next season.

For me it isn’t even a choice.


I totally get the doom and gloom this morning, but this isn't even a logical choice. The two scenarios (the Brewers making the playoffs and Yelich's recovery time) have absolutely nothing to do with each other.


You’re missing my point. Of course the two things aren’t related and there is no choice to make. I’m just expressing my opinion that whether or not the Brewers make the playoffs this year is much less important to me than Yelich’s future, which has a significant impact on the team, and how entertaining the team will be to follow for the next couple of years.

I am anxiously awaiting a report from a doctor who has actually examined Yelich. Hopefully we will get that within a few days. I am still haunted by Nelson’s injury for which the reports were that it was very significant and that he would be out for “much of the first half” of the 2018 season. We have seen how that worked out. I realize that getting back to their prior form is even harder for pitchers with significant arm or shoulder injuries. But I also remember how quickly Larry Hisle’s promising Brewers career came to an end.


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Posted: September 11, 2019, 6:45 AM Post
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BruisedCrew said:
Joey Meyer Bombs said:
BruisedCrew said:
Maybe this is the best way for me to articulate how I’m feeling today.

If you had two choices, which of these would you take:

1. The Brewers get the second wild card spot, but Yelich’s injury turns out to be serious enough that he will miss much or all of next season, and there is a question whether he will ever be quite the same player he has been the last two seasons because of lingering effects.

Or

2. The Brewers fail to make the playoffs this season, but Yelich is expected to make a full recovery and be ready to go at full strength next season.

For me it isn’t even a choice.


I totally get the doom and gloom this morning, but this isn't even a logical choice. The two scenarios (the Brewers making the playoffs and Yelich's recovery time) have absolutely nothing to do with each other.


You’re missing my point. Of course the two things aren’t related and there is no choice to make. I’m just expressing my opinion that whether or not the Brewers make the playoffs this year is much less important to me than Yelich’s future, which has a significant impact on the team, and how entertaining the team will be to follow for the next couple of years.

I am anxiously awaiting a report from a doctor who has actually examined Yelich. Hopefully we will get that within a few days. I am still haunted by Nelson’s injury for which the reports were that it was very significant and that he would be out for “much of the first half” of the 2018 season. We have seen how that worked out. I realize that getting back to their prior form is even harder for pitchers with significant arm or shoulder injuries. But I also remember how quickly Larry Hisle’s promising Brewers career came to an end.


My question would be, then, why put yourself through the gauntlet of negatively those two scenarios present? Losing Yelich sucks. But this team has been held together by duct tape and binder twine for months now, and they are still alive. They are alive until they aren’t. Might as well enjoy these last 2 1/2 weeks of games, as the current Brewers really have no expectations and will be everyone's underdog.


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Posted: September 11, 2019, 8:53 AM Post
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BruisedCrew said:
No, i was glad at the time and I’m still glad the Brewers did what they did at the deadline.

For one thing it isn’t clear who they could have gotten that would have been any better than Lyles, Pomeranz, and Black at a price they could have paid. And I’m really glad they didn’t unload Grandal.

I usually go along with the idea that anyone who makes the playoffs has a shot, but this Brewers team may be an exception. For starters, if they do get the second wild card spot, they’ll be looking at a game against the Nats and Patrick Corbin or Max Scherzer and an offense that hit them like a slow pitch softball team a couple of weeks ago. But, anything can happen, and maybe they win that game.

Then they would face the Dodgers and, with a 25 man roster, the chances of this team with no Yelich winning even 3 of 5 would be the longest of baseball long shots. There is a zero chance that a team with no starting pitchers than can go past 5 innings could get 11 playoff wins without scoring a ton of runs.

I’d rather put my chips on next year, hoping that the pitching staff will be stronger with the return of some pitchers from injury and the further development of others. Hopefully Yelich can come back next season and they can add to the lineup like they did with Moustakas and Grandal this year.

The Brewers didn’t sell off and give up completely on this year or sacrifice the future on a futile chase for a title this year. IMHO they did just the right thing.


With Yeli gone thank god we have Grandal and Moose right now! All we need now is Hiura back. These 3 won't replace Christian - you can't replace one of the best players in the MLB - but their bats can soften the blow going forward. It is now all hands on deck!


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Posted: September 11, 2019, 8:59 AM Post
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How seriously can this broken knee cap effect him next season? I googled and the recovery of this type of injury depends upon if he needs surgery or not. Most patients will be able to return to their normal activities within 3 to 6 months. Because he is a professional athlete and will have the best care possible he should come back fine in 2020. Let's pray he doesn't need surgery. That can delay his recovery and invite possible complications.


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Posted: September 11, 2019, 10:15 AM Post
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Pugger said:
How seriously can this broken knee cap effect him next season? I googled and the recovery of this type of injury depends upon if he needs surgery or not. Most patients will be able to return to their normal activities within 3 to 6 months. Because he is a professional athlete and will have the best care possible he should come back fine in 2020. Let's pray he doesn't need surgery. That can delay his recovery and invite possible complications.


If he needs surgery or not is obviously a big question. Hopefully we’ll hear something about that in a couple of days. But, if he does need surgery there could be a huge impact on next season. General Google results about resuming normal activities are probably not very useful because they are often directed at the general public. Things are quite different for an injury to Joe Couch Potato and a world class elite athlete. On the one hand, as you point out, the world class athlete is getting the best surgeons and physical therapy available and can make rehab and recovery his full time job. Plus, because he is in great shape to start with, the athlete has a head start on recovery. On the other hand, “normal activities” for an elite athlete means returning to elite status, not just being able to get around the golf course in a cart and shooting 120. If Yelich loses any speed it would reduce some of the value he provides in beating out hits, stealing bases, and taking extra bases. Also, a significant injury could affect his swing.

It just makes me sick that we even have to think about this. It’s going to take me more than a few waking hours to process it and put it out of my head.


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