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Posted: October 07, 2019, 11:08 PM Post
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They undoubtedly benefited from the SOS but that alone doesn’t explain a dominating sweep.


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Posted: October 07, 2019, 11:54 PM Post
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After the win today the Nats might have the upper hand in the series with Strasburg slated for game 5.

Lots of really entertaining baseball so far this postseason. Except the Twins...yikes. Has to be all mental at this point. Reminds me of the pre-206 Cubs.


They were a team that got to play teams that lost 89 or more games in 53% of their games and they went 40 over .500 against them. It's not mental, they just aren't a particularly good team when they have to play other teams that actually have talent.


Yup. I'd argue the Twins & Brewers had similar true talent levels entering the season.

Minnesota got to play the easiest schedule in baseball & had a lot of things break in their favor this year so they won 101 games fairly easily.

Meanwhile we had a much more evenly balanced schedule & had a plethora of things break badly so we had to fight to get 89 wins.

Pretty much baseball in a nuthsell.


Kind of why in most sports you have playoffs/post-season (and why there is rarely a legitimate champion in D1 FBS football). In no sport that I follow, at any level, do teams play a balanced schedule. This was certainly a year of a lot of inflated records due to a few truly awful teams at the bottom of those divisions.


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This is a pretty amazing stretch of ineptitude for Minnesota. By my count, that's a 2-19 record in their last 21 post season games, their last 10 games have all been against the Yankees and they've lost all of them.


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Posted: October 08, 2019, 5:56 AM Post
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What a snooze this is going to be. A real strong chance the LCS is New York, Houston, LA and St. Louis. Haven't watched any of it, wake me up when it's over.


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Posted: October 08, 2019, 5:58 AM Post
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What a snooze this is going to be. A real strong chance the LCS is New York, Houston, LA and St. Louis. Haven't watched any of it, wake me up when it's over.


Right there with you. Tuned in last night to my first playoff game other than the Brewers and saw the Twins strand the bases loaded with no outs. While it was impressive, I have seen that too many times this season already. Watched one more inning. Saw Gardner chop one by Sano and turned it off. That'll do for the 2019 season for me.

"I'm not as good as I was but in big moments I'm still the guy. I want that opportunity." -Ryan Braun


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Posted: October 08, 2019, 7:24 AM Post
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owbc said:
They undoubtedly benefited from the SOS but that alone doesn’t explain a dominating sweep.


Yeah, I think they reminded me of the 2018 Brewers offensively. Lots of HRs but struggled to score if it disappeared, as it did against the Yanks. That series had to be brutal for Twins fans, though in a totally different way than our tough losses. It just never really looked like they were in it after about the 4th inning of Game 1. And the streak of ineptitude in the playoffs continues. Amazing that in the past 15 years or so, the Twins have won a good number of division titles and only won 1 playoff game. They've now lost 16 straight in the postseason, 13 to the Yankees.

Baseball can be cruel. Hope the Rays can force a Game 5 today just for excitement's sake. Pretty fun to have two elimination games tomorrow, even if one of them involves the Cards.


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Posted: October 08, 2019, 8:25 AM Post
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owbc said:
They undoubtedly benefited from the SOS but that alone doesn’t explain a dominating sweep.


It does to me.

The Brewers had pieces to assemble a dominant bullpen. The Twins had Rogers. That's it. Romo is a guy that will get lit up in these situations.

After the Pineda suspension and given that Berrios' velocity had been ticking down all year, they were going to have to expect to bullpen 75% of the innings...except Woodruff, 2018 Burnes, Hader, Knebel, and [eh] Jeffress were not walking through that door.

The weirdest thing to me is they correctly chose to bullpen game 2 and then didn't use their 2-3 best guys.

So you've got a terrible pitching staff at this point of the year and an offense that mostly thrives on popping homers against Hector Santiago and Buck Farmer. You're facing actual prolific power hitters and a dominant bullpen with decent enough starters. Not going to end well.


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Posted: October 08, 2019, 8:38 AM Post
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To be fair to the Nats, their bullpen implosion in the losses has been Patrick Corbin in game 3 and in game 1 they weren't winning anyways.

They are being creative to only use their 3-4 good/great starters and the very top end of their bullpen unless they are punting the game. The Dodgers are just that good.


That was my point. Because they don’t trust their bullpen they had to use starters in unfamiliar roles and it wasn’t working. Now their starters might be out of whack, though Scherzer fought through for 7 innings to tie up the series.


I think it's worked out as well as it can with their starters.

Similar to the Brewers getting to the 8th inning over the heavily favored Scherzer/Strasburg combo, the Nats, a very good team, have cobbled together their starters as well as they can to creatively get to Strasburg in an elimination game against the favored Dodgers.


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Posted: October 08, 2019, 9:50 AM Post
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If the Nats make the NLCS they are going to test whether the 2001 Diamondbacks model can be replicated.

RE: the Twins. I'm not arguing that they are far less-talented than the Yankees, but if you watched the games you could see them clearly start pressing with RISP, missing very hittable pitches, plus the visible frustration on their faces. You don't want to be the underdog in the series AND feel the most pressure.

Strongly disagree about the postseason not being interesting...the divisional round is really good this year. So many different strategies being employed to various degrees of success.


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Posted: October 08, 2019, 9:55 AM Post
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The baseball may be interesting but I have very little rooting interest once the Brewers, A's and Twins are knocked off. At this point I'm pulling for Atlanta. If they lose it's all varying degrees of who cares. Dare I say I'd probably slightly pull for the Yanks at that point just for the sake of tradition and them coming into town next year.


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Posted: October 08, 2019, 10:32 AM Post
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Cardinals have not sold out any of their postseason games yet. Not even their Sunday game and first postseason game in years.

A little surprised.


They claim “sellouts” in almost every game despite several sections’ worth of empty seats. Tickets are always abundant, and usually cheap, on the secondary market.

In the playoffs, you can’t get away with the “tickets sold” model of announcing attendance they claim justify the sellout claims. The emperor can’t raid his own clothes.

And to be fair? The Brewers likely do this too.

Attendance numbers are a scam in almost every sport. If teams/schools are using inaccurate numbers to gain sponsorship/advertising, etc., they’re all guilty of legal fraud.


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Posted: October 08, 2019, 11:00 AM Post
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If the Nats make the NLCS they are going to test whether the 2001 Diamondbacks model can be replicated.


Any model where you can stretch your good pitching to cover 90+% of the playoff innings can work. You could be the Astros or somewhat the Yankees and have a $200 million payroll + a well-drafted team and have Verlander open with a lock-down bullpen to finish. That is preferable.

But if you've messed up your bullpen depth over the past few years like the Nats or you're the Brewers and don't have the payroll for a Scherzer or Kershaw, you have to get creative. The Brewers bullpenned their way to it, the Nats are creatively using their starters.

Of course you're risking guys tiring out or having zero fallback if something unforeseen happens, but it's the best risk to take. It's a better idea than not using Scherzer or Corbin out of the pen with a small lead late in the game because, "well, this is baseball, we're supposed to call on Fernando Rodney here."

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RE: the Twins. I'm not arguing that they are far less-talented than the Yankees, but if you watched the games you could see them clearly start pressing with RISP, missing very hittable pitches, plus the visible frustration on their faces. You don't want to be the underdog in the series AND feel the most pressure.


Personally I believe that Miguel Sano and Eddie Rosario were "pressing with RISP" because they were facing Zach Britton or Luis Severino or Chapman or Chad Green or Ottavino instead of Buck Farmer or Hector Santiago.

The Twins essentially did not face a bad pitcher all series. Loaisiga is a good pitcher but I guess hittable and Lyons is hittable. They faced those guys for 2 innings in garbage time on Saturday and that is it. So it is not surprising that an offense that put up numbers with a juiced ball mostly against bad pitching did not do all that well against the Yankees with a bunch of All Star pitchers.

The Yankees did get 4 runs on Tyler Duffey, a solid reliever. Beyond that, almost all of their runs came against:
-Kyle Gibson (marred by e.coli all year)
-Zach Littell
-Cody Stashak
-Randy Dobnak

Berrios, Odorizzi, Rogers all did great. Romo was OK.

So personally, I think the Yankees had slightly superior hitters hitting against a bunch of replacement level pitchers.

The Twins were "pressing" against 95% All-Star/Hall of Fame pitchers.

That's the difference. I'm not sure the Twins were pressing...I don't know if even the clutchest of hitter is going to do much off of Adam Ottavano or Chad Green after his mechanical adjustments made him unhittable this year. Those guys throwing their best stuff is going to get anyone out.


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Posted: October 08, 2019, 5:41 PM Post
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Is it my imagination or do starters on short rest in playoff games get lite up more often then not?

Managers keep sending them out there. I guess the Astros figured why not since we have Cole for game 5 anyway.


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https://twitter.com/slangsonsports/stat ... 93216?s=21


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Posted: October 08, 2019, 7:46 PM Post
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Is it my imagination or do starters on short rest in playoff games get lite up more often then not?

Managers keep sending them out there. I guess the Astros figured why not since we have Cole for game 5 anyway.


Not your imagination...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fan ... -playoffs/

Article is from 2016, but the lede is...

Since 1995, the first year the wild-card format was used in the playoffs, 77 pitchers have started 121 playoff games on three days or fewer of rest, resulting in a combined 35-40 record with a 4.35 ERA. Considering teams usually use their ace in this way during the postseason, those results are not very encouraging.


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Posted: October 08, 2019, 8:17 PM Post
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What a snooze this is going to be. A real strong chance the LCS is New York, Houston, LA and St. Louis. Haven't watched any of it, wake me up when it's over.


Just as good a chance at it being nats, Braves, Rays and yankees at this point


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Posted: October 08, 2019, 8:29 PM Post
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There are not too many times that I would bet baseball games. But tonight is the perfect storm of everything I look for. A good team who is a home underdog against a pitcher going on short rest.

And you were getting 2 1/2 to one. This is the game you load up on


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Posted: October 09, 2019, 7:04 AM Post
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Three game 5's in the first round. Three win or go home games.

Gosh, do I love baseball. Go Rays. Go Braves.

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Posted: October 09, 2019, 8:45 AM Post
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Fear The Chorizo said:
OldSchoolSnapper said:
What a snooze this is going to be. A real strong chance the LCS is New York, Houston, LA and St. Louis. Haven't watched any of it, wake me up when it's over.


Just as good a chance at it being nats, Braves, Rays and yankees at this point


I'd prefer that, but the Nationals don't really grab my attention like the Rays do.


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Posted: October 09, 2019, 10:01 AM Post
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All I care about is no STL. Then a big gap, then prefer not NYY. After that I'm ok with everyone with Rays being my #1 choice. Watching last night and listening to the announcers try to guess on the pitching strategies when they're so unfamiliar with this strategy was funny.


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