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2019 MLB Postseason: World Series [Nationals win series, 4-3]

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Posted: October 24, 2019, 6:17 AM Post
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The Nats look like a team of destiny, wow. Against the Brewers they had Zimmermans weak single...then Soto has his ball take that hop past Grisham. Last night again they had 2 weak hits in that big inning. 3 if you include Kendricks ball to Bregman. Most impressive though...they kept putting it in play.


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Posted: October 24, 2019, 6:46 AM Post
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It certainly is a nice reminder that you just have to get in to the postseason to have a chance.


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Posted: October 24, 2019, 7:38 AM Post
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I really thought Martinez and that bullpen would sink the Nats. Something else I was just totally wrong about. Still time for them to lose, of course, and the Astros are good enough all around to come back from 0-2, but beating Corbin will be a tall task.

I'm sure, if the Nats hold on, the narrative will be about "traditional" starting pitching, but I think that will be an oversimplification. The Nats were simply smart enough to play in a way that suited their roster, and their deployment of their starters in the WC game and NLDS was anything but "traditional."

Stearns and the gang may be in Billy Beane territory as far as postseason BP usage is concerned. I think they've changed the game, but they won't get much credit for it because they didn't win the WS and cement the narrative (though hopefully the WS part of that changes in the next couple years...a fan can hope).


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Posted: October 24, 2019, 7:58 AM Post
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I really thought Martinez and that bullpen would sink the Nats. Something else I was just totally wrong about. Still time for them to lose, of course, and the Astros are good enough all around to come back from 0-2, but beating Corbin will be a tall task.

I'm sure, if the Nats hold on, the narrative will be about "traditional" starting pitching, but I think that will be an oversimplification. The Nats were simply smart enough to play in a way that suited their roster, and their deployment of their starters in the WC game and NLDS was anything but "traditional."

Stearns and the gang may be in Billy Beane territory as far as postseason BP usage is concerned. I think they've changed the game, but they won't get much credit for it because they didn't win the WS and cement the narrative (though hopefully the WS part of that changes in the next couple years...a fan can hope).


The dirty little secret is that if you have $100 million in a given year to spend on your rotation alone, you have a slight leg up on the bullpenning teams. The Brewers need to cobble together 5-6 pitchers in a given night and worry about rest, matchups, etc. while these other teams can pitch an ace into the 6th or 7th (or later) and just have to worry about having 2 guys waiting behind just in case.

Kudos to the Nats who are playing it smart...I never really understood the, "lol Nats bullpen" stuff because as we've seen - you only need to go 3 deep in close games.

So, yes, good starting pitching should be coveted. There are about 20 guys on the planet that are this good and all of them in the free market will get $150+ million and $25+ million/year.

If you're down to the Jhoulys Chacin or Zach Davies level of player...you bullpen the 2nd half (or more) of the game because it's the smart thing to do. You don't try to squeeze 115 pitches out of him because you want him to be a bulldog and try to pitch through the 7th or whatever "because Justin Verlander does."


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Posted: October 24, 2019, 11:55 AM Post
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I strongly agree with Cool Hand Lucroy's analysis. The Nats and Astros are certainly not winning because of their TOR starters...if anything they are winning despite their shortcomings. All of them besides Strasburg have looked vulnerable. It seems like the hitting approach is the commonality between the two teams...particularly an ability to get on base and keep pressure on the opposing pitchers.

Take a guess which teams were #1 and #2 in MLB in the regular season in OBP?

The other aspect is the randomness of the postseason. The Nats were lucky to get through both the wild card and the NLDS.


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Posted: October 24, 2019, 12:16 PM Post
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The Nats have had a lights out rotation for the better part of 5 years or more and accomplished not much of anything. The only reason they're still in the playoffs is due to a somewhat flukey, unfortunate series of events against Hader. Not to mention they barely made it past the Dodgers. They're the poster child for Starting Pitching isn't everything.


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Posted: October 24, 2019, 1:25 PM Post
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Don't think it's any secret. I think the Brewers are well aware they would be better off with three ace SP. The bullpenning stuff is just the only way they can realistically compete.

The best way to win a game is still with a traditional ace starter. But there is no sense trying to punch like Mike Tyson when you are three weight classes below.


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Posted: October 25, 2019, 1:06 PM Post
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I have a Nats fan pal on Twitter who I think I just persuaded to send me a fruit basket if they go all the way. [laughing]

Remember: the Brewers never panic like you do.


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Posted: October 25, 2019, 7:30 PM Post
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How many years are left on Greinke's contract?


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Posted: October 25, 2019, 7:32 PM Post
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Houston’s biggest pitch of the season is thrown 68 MPH by Greinke.


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Posted: October 25, 2019, 9:54 PM Post
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How many years are left on Greinke's contract?


Two years, sixty four million buckaroos.


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Posted: October 26, 2019, 5:40 AM Post
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The longest game in the 1982 World Series was played in 3:04. So far, the three games in this series have gone 3:43, 4:01 and 4:03. I loathe this pace. I grew up with games lasting 2 hours, maybe 2:30. Those days aren't coming back. But if they don't do something to speed things up, my fandom may be reduced to just watching highlight shows and reading box scores.


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Posted: October 26, 2019, 8:20 AM Post
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The longest game in the 1982 World Series was played in 3:04. So far, the three games in this series have gone 3:43, 4:01 and 4:03. I loathe this pace. I grew up with games lasting 2 hours, maybe 2:30. Those days aren't coming back. But if they don't do something to speed things up, my fandom may be reduced to just watching highlight shows and reading box scores.


Average MLB pace for pitchers in 2019 was 24.9 seconds.

Instituting a 20 second pitch clock like they have in the minors would cut about 24-25 minutes off of every game. Just. Like. That.


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Posted: October 26, 2019, 8:43 AM Post
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The good news is that there are a maximum of 4 MLB games remaining that will not have a pitch clock.


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Posted: October 26, 2019, 8:55 PM Post
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The Nationals sure look like they're gonna try to blow a 2-0 lead in the World Series...

Not that I mind too much... they beat the Dodgers and Cardinals, and their usefulness to me this season has ended... now I want them to feel the heartbreak of falling short in the postseason.


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Posted: October 26, 2019, 9:10 PM Post
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My bet is whoever wins the next game wins the series.


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Posted: October 27, 2019, 8:18 PM Post
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If the Brewers grabbed a 2-0 series lead in the WS and blew it...I think I would have to take sick leave for two weeks and see a therapist.


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Posted: October 27, 2019, 8:48 PM Post
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If the Brewers grabbed a 2-0 series lead in the WS and blew it...I think I would have to take sick leave for two weeks and see a therapist.


Especially taking a 2-0 lead on the road and losing the next 3 at home.

Cards' fans wear jorts.


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Posted: October 27, 2019, 9:18 PM Post
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trwi7 said:
MrTPlush said:
If the Brewers grabbed a 2-0 series lead in the WS and blew it...I think I would have to take sick leave for two weeks and see a therapist.


Especially taking a 2-0 lead on the road and losing the next 3 at home.


And not being remotely competitive in any of the 3 games. A true disaster.


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Posted: October 27, 2019, 10:22 PM Post
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I’m still amazed the Pirates traded Garrett Cole and then six months later traded for Chris Archer.


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