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2020-09-21: Brewers (Woodruff) at Reds (Castillo) [Brewers lose, 6-3]

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Posted: September 21, 2020, 7:16 PM Post
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owbc said:
mtsportsfan said:
No kidding , can't imagine trying to hit that heat. But still, professional hitting is just lacking . Not just our team but everybody. Whatever happened to choking up and protect the plate , moving guys over. It's either strikeout or homerun lately.
With almost every pitcher hitting 95-99 , you would think these guys would try different ways of making contact other than swinging for the fences.


It doesn't really seem to help. The pitches have so much movement that you will still swing and miss a ton..and when you do make contact the defense is more likely to make a play. The exit velocity vs. hit probability relationship is so strong that under most situations you have to hit the ball hard. And when you do hit the ball hard, it jacks up your OPS which is the only number anyone is really looking at.

It's interesting to watch Vogelbach hit because he has a very compact swing and is pretty good at making contact. But even he ended up on the scrap heap after a relatively short period of struggling.

Maybe in the long run we'll see more contact hitters work their way up through the minors, but I suspect MLB will make hitter-friendly rule changes before that happens.


I wish they would move the rubber back a foot.


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Posted: September 21, 2020, 7:18 PM Post
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adambr2 said:
I think it takes 5-2 the rest of the way to have a chance. 6-1 should be safe.


5-2 is a big ask......6-1.......somewhere between slim a d none


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Posted: September 21, 2020, 7:18 PM Post
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yourout said:
I wish they would move the rubber back a foot.


Either that or lower the mound. I also think robot umps are going to really help hitters.


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Posted: September 21, 2020, 7:19 PM Post
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Just a classic example of how awful the MLB product is right now.

Classic contact situation--2nd and 3rd, 1 out--and there's only a handful of hitters in all of MLB who could be counted on to get the run in there.


If only these scrubs would learn to hit 98 with 90 mph sliders.


Well, it is their job, so...


I mean, it's the pitcher's job to get them out too. There's a reason strikeouts have been up every year since 2005 and records have been set every year since 2006. The harder they throw, the less time hitters have to react. When you have to make a decision on whether to swing a split second quicker, you're a lot more likely to swing at pitches that aren't strikes or just miss pitches that are just because of the pure stuff of pitchers now.

Cards' fans wear jorts.


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Posted: September 21, 2020, 7:19 PM Post
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markedman5 said:
adambr2 said:
I think it takes 5-2 the rest of the way to have a chance. 6-1 should be safe.


5-2 is a big ask......6-1.......somewhere between slim a d none


With this squads inability to hit...6-1 would require devine intervention.


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Posted: September 21, 2020, 7:20 PM Post
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adambr2 said:
I think it takes 5-2 the rest of the way to have a chance. 6-1 should be safe.


Remember when people thought that 25 wins would be enough. Now it’s getting to where 30-30 might not be good enough.


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Posted: September 21, 2020, 7:20 PM Post
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owbc said:
yourout said:
I wish they would move the rubber back a foot.


Either that or lower the mound. I also think robot umps are going to really help hitters.


I could get behind that.


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Posted: September 21, 2020, 7:21 PM Post
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About to be 6 to 1.


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Posted: September 21, 2020, 7:22 PM Post
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Tonight was the game the Brewers had to have if they wanted to take 2 out of 3 in this series. The pitching matchups the next two nights are pretty unfavorable. At least Gray might be limited coming off the injury.

I think tonight was their toughest pitching matchup on paper (for the offense). Castillo has been otherworldly the last couple of weeks. Gray is dealing with some back issues, although I have no idea about the severity. I think they can at least make him labor and knock him out of the game in 6 or less innings. Bauer is on a day short of full rest, and even though he’s confident I wouldn’t be shocked if it backfires. Also, between yesterday (Sims for 2.1 IP) and tonight (Garrett, Iglesias) the Reds have already leaned on their best relievers the past two days.


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Woody on his way to being 2-5.......he hasn’t pitched badly but we haven’t won enough of his starts.......puts too much pressure on everyone else


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Posted: September 21, 2020, 7:24 PM Post
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Heck of a block there by Nottingham.


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Posted: September 21, 2020, 7:25 PM Post
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Welp.


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Mouse adds insult to injury.


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Moose adds insult to injury.......Rasmussen was probably due for a bad one


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Now we’ll score 3 in the ninth. Oh well, hope to somehow win this series. Just wish we could get over the .500 hump.


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Poop. I can't decide if I'd rather be in it until the weekend only to fail or get our butts whooped and head to St Louis out of it. Perhaps tomorrow will be better, but we should have an idea after that.


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Posted: September 21, 2020, 7:30 PM Post
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I think the only way in is a Philly collapse.


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Call me crazy, but I think they’re going to win the next two in Cincinnati.


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Posted: September 21, 2020, 7:30 PM Post
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Oh well , we'll get them tomorrow.


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Posted: September 21, 2020, 7:32 PM Post
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markedman5 said:
Woody on his way to being 2-5.......he hasn’t pitched badly but we haven’t won enough of his starts.......puts too much pressure on everyone else


Not his fault he gets 2.77 runs of support. Corbin Burnes gets 7.03 runs per starts. All that run support gives Burnes a okay 5-3 record.


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