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Posted: October 08, 2006, 3:06 AM Post
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and all the offseason dominos are going to start and fall with the New York Yankees. It is already stunning to hear them replacing Torre with Panella. But this station set forth 5 goals for the offseason inorder for a quick rebuild. One had to do with the Brewers.

They said that they wanted to trade Alex Rodriguez to the Florida Marlins for Dontrell Willis.

Sign Hank Blalock to play 3rd.

Finding a way to get Andy Pettite back to NYC.

Getting what you can for Jason Giambi, dump Gary Sheffield.

and then the kicker, their key to their offseason is find a way to get Ben Sheets. Then they started talking about different deals to get him. They were all laughable, laughable like a home team always believes they can get somebody for crap. But then one caller called in and brought up a decent trade I think for the Brewers...what do you think?

Yankees get:
P Ben Sheets
P Matt Wise
2B Rickie Weeks
a midlevel prospect

Brewers get:
2B Robinson Cano
OF Melky Caberra

Again this was just a rumor a caller had, I just thought it was interesting. New York is such a fun place when it comes to sports.


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Posted: October 08, 2006, 3:09 AM Post
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that is a horrible deal. Cano and Cabrera? They have got to be kidding! Sheesh, they are homers for making that offer. No way the Yankees are getting Sheeter AND Weeks for those two clowns.

(okay, Cano did fine this year and last but I'll still pass)

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Posted: October 08, 2006, 3:10 AM Post
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Oof.

Weeks > Cano, or at least his potential is.

Sheets is a star, if healthy, and Melky is a nice prospect.

I'd say no.


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Posted: October 08, 2006, 3:12 AM Post
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Cano is better than Weeks. Potential? Who knows. Right now Cano is better than Weeks. Still, that's a ridiculous trade from the Brewers perspective.


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Posted: October 08, 2006, 3:15 AM Post
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

why not offer arod to the brewers for sheets? if they really wanted ben and to get rid of the future hall of famer


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Posted: October 08, 2006, 3:26 AM Post
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What happened to them always saying he was overrated?

I'll point out if you want to hear really horrible sports talk, listen online to WFAN in NY. The rumors and stuff they come up with are usually hillarious.

Blalock's not even close to being a FA, and Giambi is going to be virtually impossible to trade.


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Posted: October 08, 2006, 3:35 AM Post
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The Hank Blalock that had a .726 OPS this year, with 16 homers in 640+ plate appearances? In Texas? THAT Hank Blalock?

They want him to replace A-Rod?

At this point I wouldn't want Blalock for OUR 3rd baseman, unless he was at a huge discount.

His BA and SLG have gone down each of the last 4 years, and his OPS away from Texas the last 4 years is .695.


Over rated.


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Posted: October 08, 2006, 3:57 AM Post
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Seems like A-Rod's stock has fallen really bad in NY... I wonder if the Yankees will accept an offer of Davis and Wise for A-Rod?

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Yankees get:
P Ben Sheets
P Matt Wise


If the Yankees want Sheets and Wise, they will probably have to offer A-Rod, Chien-Ming Wang, Melky Caberra and Philip Hughes. I wouldn't mind adding Jenkins and Koskie to sweeten this deal for the Yankees.

Edit: Add Koskie


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Posted: October 08, 2006, 5:21 AM Post
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just more of Yankee @#%$


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Posted: October 08, 2006, 5:27 AM Post
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Sheets has a full no trade clause through 2007 and can only be traded to 8 teams in 2008 who knows if the Yankees are one of those teams.

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Posted: October 08, 2006, 5:42 AM Post
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If Sheets wants to go, he can waive the no-trade clause.

I doubt he's going anywhere regardless.


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Posted: October 08, 2006, 7:20 AM Post
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Sign Hank Blalock to play 3rd.
Yeah, except he's signed through 2008. Plus, he's not very good and is living off past potential. Still, I'd love to see him there because it helps ensure either a postseason flop or missing the playoffs all together.

Finding a way to get Andy Pettite back to NYC.
That's very reasonable, again another move I'd love to see them make, as he will probably sign a deal that takes him to age 38.

.Yankees get:
P Ben Sheets
P Matt Wise
2B Rickie Weeks
a midlevel prospect

Brewers get:
2B Robinson Cano
OF Melky Caberra

Well why don't they just throw in Phillip Hughes and have us add Fielder, Yo, and Braun?
Cano is very good, but he's nowhere near worth that kind of return, as Cabrera is of little more than throw-in quality. If they want that return they're gonna have to talk about A-Rod, not Cano.


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Posted: October 08, 2006, 8:03 AM Post
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Of course they haev ARod goign to the one team that has near equal players at short and third, both pre arby. So Yankee fans are idiots.


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Posted: October 08, 2006, 7:08 PM Post
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But then one caller called in and brought up a decent trade I think for the Brewers...what do you think?

Yankees get:
P Ben Sheets
P Matt Wise
2B Rickie Weeks
a midlevel prospect

Brewers get:
2B Robinson Cano
OF Melky Caberra


I love how they want the Brewers to include a prospect.I've seen some really silly trade proposals on message boards,but this one is close to being the worst.


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Posted: October 08, 2006, 7:41 PM Post
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I love Cano, but also think Weeks will be solid if not outstanding very soon. Cabrera...eh...

Don't know what else to say...just bad trade.


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Posted: October 09, 2006, 12:39 AM Post
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There is no questions that Cano is better than Weeks. That deal still is an absolute joke though.


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Posted: October 09, 2006, 1:02 AM Post
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another piece to add to this topic is that there is no way the marlins trade willis for arod... why would they do that? willis is cheap and anchor of that staff. they have miguel cabrera at third and hanley ramierez at short. i just don't see the 14 mill marlins adding a rod.


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Posted: October 09, 2006, 5:03 AM Post
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If the Yankees are viewing A-Rod as a player they're anxious to shed, then this is the sort of trade proposal we need to be seeing:

Yankees get:
Doug Davis
Matt Wise
mid-grade grade prospect (Krynzel) or Jenkins

Brewers get:
A-Rod
some $$ toward A-Rod's contract
+ something else to thank them for relieving them of that burden and taking on that contract

Regarding that original proposal, if one views the rest of the majors as their own farm system with prospects or stars for the taking, as the Yankees seem to do, wouldn't you expect such one-sided, ridiculous trade proposals?

I hate the Yankees.


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Posted: October 11, 2006, 10:20 PM Post
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Cano sees nothing in the Yankee lineup.
I bet he hasn't seen a breaking ball since April.


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Posted: October 14, 2006, 9:30 PM Post
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Just out of curiousity, what about a monster like...

Mil. gives up-
Capuano/Davis (Lefty ace who can give quality start after quality start)
Koskie (3 bagger who provides a solid steadying voice in a locker room full of characters. You have to imagine he and Jeter would mesh much better than A-Rod and Jeter)
Capellan (Young fireballer to put away in the bullpen)
Braun (Goes without saying that his value decreases when you acquire A-Rod and his value increases with the Yankees, especially with Duncan looking like Giambi's heir)
Inman/Rogers (I'd prefer they take Rogers, but I would imagine they would prefer Inman if they gave up Hughes.)

NY gives us-
A-Rod (and balances his salary to average $13 million)
Phillip Hughes (Yo and Hughes...AAA...wicked good)

Please tell me I'm giving up too much... I know NY would need to be BLOWN AWAY to give up Hughes AND A-Rod but...that trade would really blow me away.


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