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Posted: March 29, 2017, 2:26 PM Post
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Why in the world are we talking about Joey Gallo again?


Because most people don't know much about any other prospects. He's easy to target and write in a trade proposal and call it good.


LOL... yep. Pretty much sums up my sentiments exactly.


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Posted: March 29, 2017, 2:38 PM Post
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Yeah, there's too much Joey Meyer in Gallo for my taste. I'd keep Guerra and hope for something better. Peralta? Sure.


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Posted: March 29, 2017, 2:39 PM Post
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I think he's just a really interesting player considering the extreme views people have on him. People bring him up in part because the Rangers seem to de-value him just as much as some of the posters on this board do, so you would think that would make him actually available as a trade target. While his strikeout numbers are a concern, it's not often a player with his ceiling is available at his age.

If the Rangers also think a player who has 133 Major League at bats as a 21-22 year old "has proven that he is incapable of being anything other than a career minor leaguer", then I'm happy to buy low on the guy. That doesn't mean the concerns aren't warranted, but if the Rangers aren't going to give him a shot and you can get a guy for less than his potential value, why not consider it?

That said, I think the Rangers are still looking for "top prospect value" in return and not whatever it is they think he actually is worth to them. In the meantime they'll continue to bounce him between AAA and the majors without giving him a real opportunity. It's just a really strange/interesting scenario.


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Also, not to be a Debbie downer but I tend to think that it has been quite a few years since Tom Haudricourt has broken too many scoops. I suspect that if anything is happening with our roster involving pitching it will amount to far less than some blockbuster deal.


Haudricourt isn't hinting at anything big. The "big deal" talk is by individuals that find it too boring to talk about a trade involving just Peralta. Since the return would be a player(s) that aren't flashy.


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Posted: March 29, 2017, 2:43 PM Post
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I think I am correct in remembering that Stearns basically wanted nothing to do with him in the Lucroy deal which is how we ended up with several of their top prospects besides him.


Well, Peralta is not Lucroy. Gallo would actually be a pretty fair trade for Peralta. Not that I want that to happen, or think it will. But his name at least makes sense in the context of a Peralta trade, where it never made any sense in a Lucroy trade.

All of this Peralta talk with the Rangers is a smoke screen anyhow, Braun is the one who will be traded. Gallo and....


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Brew4U said:
DocLuna7 said:
Why in the world are we talking about Joey Gallo again?


Because most people don't know much about any other prospects. He's easy to target and write in a trade proposal and call it good.

I don't think this is fair. Facts are the Texas Rangers supposedly had an interest in starting pitching (Wily Peralta in particular), the Brewers have unknowns at 1B and that 32 year old pitcher Junior Guerra has been mentioned constantly in trade rumors, I think it makes sense that Gallo for Peralta or Guerra would be mentioned as a possible return. If it had been the Blue Jays, Orioles or Mariners who were looking at starting pitching, I don't think anyone would be mentioning Gallo.

It is because it's the Rangers specifically that Gallo is being mentioned.


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Posted: March 29, 2017, 2:48 PM Post
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I agree on having no idea why we're talking about Gallo in a Peralta thread. I also think it's really unfair to say he's 'proven that he's incapable of bring anything other than a career minor leaguer', though.


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Posted: March 29, 2017, 3:01 PM Post
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A Swing and A Drive said:
I think the Brewers would have to add a decent piece to Peralta to land Gallo.

Probably something like this could get a trade done:

Brewers get:
1B/3B Joey Gallo

Rangers get:
RHP Wily Peralta
plus one (1) of these guys perhaps...
RHP Brandon Woodruff. RHP Jorge Lopez or RHP Taylor Jungmann

I don't feel any of those arms will be more than back-end starters so I wouldn't hesitate to move one personally.


Way to much for Gallo as his value has dropped far below his worth. From a couple of friends who are scouts for the Orioles and the Angels they compare Gallo to Chris Carter and at best he could be Branyan or a Rob Deer type of a player.

I also don't believe DS and the current management value Gallo all that much. I wouldn't be surprised if DS never even asked about Gallo when trading Lucroy or told the Rangers he was not interested in Gallo. Gallo just doesn't really fit the type of players DS and company are looking for.

The market for Gallo right now the Rangers would be lucky to get a #3 type pitcher in return.


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Posted: March 29, 2017, 3:20 PM Post
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I agree on having no idea why we're talking about Gallo in a Peralta thread. I also think it's really unfair to say he's 'proven that he's incapable of bring anything other than a career minor leaguer', though.


When you quote me like that I can see why that seems unfair. I didn't mean it to sound that harsh but what I do mean to say is that I think that Gallo's potential ceiling isn't nearly as high as some others might. I am far from convinced that he is going to be a decent productive hitter over the long-term at the major league level.


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Posted: March 29, 2017, 3:22 PM Post
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FVBrewerFan said:
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I think I am correct in remembering that Stearns basically wanted nothing to do with him in the Lucroy deal which is how we ended up with several of their top prospects besides him.


Well, Peralta is not Lucroy. Gallo would actually be a pretty fair trade for Peralta. Not that I want that to happen, or think it will. But his name at least makes sense in the context of a Peralta trade, where it never made any sense in a Lucroy trade.

All of this Peralta talk with the Rangers is a smoke screen anyhow, Braun is the one who will be traded. Gallo and....


Yeah... that makes some sense. My point though is that Stearns didn't seem to express much interest in Gallo (from what was being reported) at the time. Maybe that changes for someone like a Peralta but I still don't think he really fits the mold of a Stearns type acquisition.


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Posted: March 29, 2017, 3:43 PM Post
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Brew4U said:
DocLuna7 said:
Why in the world are we talking about Joey Gallo again?


Because most people don't know much about any other prospects. He's easy to target and write in a trade proposal and call it good.


Please come up with a Wily Peralta to the Rangers trade proposal that the rest of us can debate. Since you seem to be one of the only ones on the World Wide Wide with knowledge of "other" prospects, I'm sure you can come up with a plausable trade proposal in short order.


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Posted: March 29, 2017, 4:20 PM Post
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A Swing and A Drive said:
Brew4U said:
DocLuna7 said:
Why in the world are we talking about Joey Gallo again?


Because most people don't know much about any other prospects. He's easy to target and write in a trade proposal and call it good.


Please come up with a Wily Peralta to the Rangers trade proposal that the rest of us can debate. Since you seem to be one of the only ones on the World Wide Wide with knowledge of "other" prospects, I'm sure you can come up with a plausable trade proposal in short order.



I seem to be? Where did I ever say that? Step off the ledge their pal. It was a generalization of most fans. Most are just not in the know on prospects. It's easy to pick up and toss in Gallo because he's one of the known prospects out there. That's all the statement was saying. But please, contribute to try to call me out and look like a fool. Carry on...


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Posted: March 29, 2017, 5:03 PM Post
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Just because there was one report about the Rangers scouting Peralta doesn't mean there weren't other scouts from other teams that were at his last start. In fact, there were. I saw that game from the KC feed. The entire section behind home plate was full of scouts, and they were training their radar guns on Peralta when he threw and not Ian Kennedy who of course they weren't monitoring. Peralta was impressive that day as he has been much of spring. You can't simply give him away to the first team that offers.


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Posted: March 29, 2017, 5:46 PM Post
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A Swing and A Drive said:
Brew4U said:
DocLuna7 said:
Why in the world are we talking about Joey Gallo again?


Because most people don't know much about any other prospects. He's easy to target and write in a trade proposal and call it good.


Please come up with a Wily Peralta to the Rangers trade proposal that the rest of us can debate. Since you seem to be one of the only ones on the World Wide Wide with knowledge of "other" prospects, I'm sure you can come up with a plausable trade proposal in short order.


Let me help you how it goes...

Peralta for Mendez ---> You're insane, why would they ever trade him?
Peralta for Tavares ---> We don't need anymore ***** outfielders
Peralta for Tejeda/Yrizarri ---> We have Arcia for years

etc etc etc. Heaven forbid somebody suggest an underachieving arm for an underachieving 1B/3B which is a black hole for us and see if we might catch lightning in a bottle with a cornerstone player.

Carry on


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Posted: April 01, 2017, 5:04 PM Post
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Cravy and Scahill cut. Jungmann makes team.

Haudricourt confirming an outside move coming.



https://twitter.com/Haudricourt/status/ ... 5444476928


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Posted: April 01, 2017, 5:15 PM Post
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Cravy and Scahill are furious and I don't blame them. Milone had no business making the roster.


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Posted: April 01, 2017, 5:16 PM Post
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Cravy and Scahill are furious and I don't blame them. Milone had no business making the roster.


Nor did Jungmann imho. Watching Jungmann nibble today was painful.


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Posted: April 01, 2017, 5:24 PM Post
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I'm predicting Kirk N for a relief pitcher. White sox or tigers?


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Kirk? Doubt he's going anywhere. They aren't going with 3 true outfielders on the roster.


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I'm guessing one of the following:

1. Guerra, Anderson or Paratla dealt: This would explain why Milone was kept.

2. Perez, Shaw or Braun dealt.


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