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Posted: August 20, 2017, 9:10 PM Post
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Brew4U said:
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On August 31, 1982, Don Sutton was traded to the Brewers. He arguably was the difference in getting the Brewers to the playoffs and World Series. I see Verlander in that light if we are still close on Aug. 31. If the price and prospect cost is right, it still is possible.


I still have yet to hear any reasonable explanation from anyone as to why Justin Verlander and his supermodel wife Kate Upton, who just bought a $6M dollar house in Beverly Hills, are going to agree to not only waive his no-trade clause, but also forfeit his 10/5 rights to veto a trade in the future by doing so, to spend potentially the rest of his career in Milwaukee.

The other kicker is that even if he did, the language in the new CBA would allow him to seek an opt-out at the end of this year or 2018, potentially putting us in the position to be giving up top prospects for a 6 or 7 start rental.


He would probably get another 5 starts in the postseason as we are winning the World Series so I'm not sure what the complaints are about.


If we were that confident that a rented ace would have that big of an impact for us I'm sure we would have just traded for Darvish and at least gotten an extra month out of him.


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Posted: August 20, 2017, 9:38 PM Post
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Verlander > Darvish

“There's a fine line between being confident and cocky, or overconfident. This is an extremely humbling game. But if you don't believe in yourself, no one else is going to believe in you.”


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Posted: August 21, 2017, 9:29 AM Post
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have 9 more days


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Posted: August 31, 2017, 9:24 PM Post
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looks like he might be going to the astros


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Posted: September 10, 2017, 10:01 AM Post
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Justin Verlander has a 2.33 ERA and .593 OPS-A post-All-Star break.

I think calls of him being washed up were a little premature.


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Posted: September 10, 2017, 5:13 PM Post
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LouisEly said:
Justin Verlander has a 2.33 ERA and .593 OPS-A post-All-Star break.

I think calls of him being washed up were a little premature.



It seems like people have suggested Verlander was washed up a couple times now. I'm also a bit surprised to see his fastball velocity sitting at 95.3 MPH at 34 years old.


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Posted: September 10, 2017, 6:14 PM Post
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packers slackers


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Posted: September 11, 2017, 8:00 AM Post
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Verlander the last 3 or 4 seasons really ramps up his stuff in the 2nd half and is dominant.

I would have loved to basically absorb the contract. Giving up good prospects and absorbing the contract...no.


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Posted: September 14, 2017, 2:28 AM Post
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Verlander the last 3 or 4 seasons really ramps up his stuff in the 2nd half and is dominant.

I would have loved to basically absorb the contract. Giving up good prospects and absorbing the contract...no.


Agreed. You'd have to think that Perez and Cameron would be equal to a Phillips/Burnes duo. And the the third prospect is a Clint Coulter type.

Then again, just to play devils advocate, if the Brewers are a contender against next year and they could have gotten the deal done without giving up Burnes, a rotation of Nelson/Verlander/Anderson/Davies/Woodruff with Burnes and Peralta waiting in the wings and even Hader potentially in the mix, plus a BP that includes Knebel, hopefully Barnes making a Knebel like jump(his stuff is similar), Taylor Williams, and then again possibly Hader..that looks like a contending pitching staff.

But I never really wanted to give up any prospects this year. I never really thought we could matchup in the playoffs with any of the other teams and unless Nelson's injury is much less significant than feared and he's 100 pct healthy by the start of next year, I would be hesitant to trade any long term assets this off-season or next year.

I hope we wait, let guys like Brinson, Woodruff, Burnes and everyone else get a while under them to see what we have, and at that point, our roster should be so cheap that we could at that point go out and add a guy like Verlander. Or heck, even sign a guy like Kuechel who'll be a Free Agent. That would be about the only situation in which we could really compete financially with the big boys, if the majority of our lineup is either pre-arby or just early in their arbitration years.


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Posted: October 20, 2017, 8:46 PM Post
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The man is filthy. It’s too bad his wife hates Milwaukee.

“There's a fine line between being confident and cocky, or overconfident. This is an extremely humbling game. But if you don't believe in yourself, no one else is going to believe in you.”


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Offline  Re: Justin Verlander
Posted: October 21, 2017, 6:54 AM Post
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The man is filthy. It’s too bad his wife hates Milwaukee.


To each their own but I would not have wanted to give up a comparable package that OTB mentioned of Phillips + Burnes + 1. I don't believe we are at the right stage to be making a deal like that. The Astros with or without Verlander are still well ahead of where we are at this point in time.

Jokes about Upton aside too, I still doubt very much that Verlander makes the same concession that he did to go to Houston. Dallas Kuechel still had to sell Verlander on it in the 11th hour, and he still required a waiver of his 2020 vesting option.

Houston was most likely a more attractive destination if for no other reason than the Astros are far closer to World Series contention than us.


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Posted: October 21, 2017, 7:26 AM Post
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Yeah I should’ve put the part about his wife in blue. Lol

“There's a fine line between being confident and cocky, or overconfident. This is an extremely humbling game. But if you don't believe in yourself, no one else is going to believe in you.”


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