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Posted: July 12, 2017, 10:49 AM Post
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Cubs were reportedly asking Detroit about Michael Fulmer and were willing to part with Schwarber. Now Tigers are said to be searching for their CF of the future and rejected the Cubs. If Fulmer were available, the asking price would be enormous, but Brewers have the CF in Brinson that might interest the Tigers but don't think him alone gets it done. Question is what else would they want? Davies? Woodruff?


It appears that the Tigers have not-great OF depth in their organization. The current stats bear it out; it's mentioned in Detroit-centric sports columns. Additionally, Justin Upton has an opt-out clause in his contract after the 2017 season, which could be exercised if he turns it up the rest of the season and thinks he can be an attractive free agent.

That would make Brinson a key piece in any potential trade with Detroit. I'd suggest that any trade for Fulmer would involve several OF prospects.

Additionally, the Tigers trading away a young starting pitcher would hurt their pitching rotation. I'd expect they would have interest in a young major league starter or a near major-league ready starter.

The Tigers infield is also aging with Kinsler at 2B and Romine playing UT. So a major league or near major-league ready infielder might be sought.

So throwing that all together, I'd think we'd be looking at something like this:
Fulmer = Brinson, Phillips, Dubon/Villar, and Davies/Woodruff.


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Posted: July 12, 2017, 11:21 AM Post
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A Swing and A Drive said:
Humans Need Water said:
Why do you believe the Brewers need a SP at this deadline?


Because in my mind Brent Suter is as good as Clayton Kershaw, but just in case reality says otherwise it could be a good idea.


One of my favorite posts of the year!!!! That was awesome

Yes, indeed... and Baseball history has shown that one can never have too much pitching

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Posted: July 12, 2017, 11:24 AM Post
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Or I could have simply responded...

"Why do you believe humans need water?"


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Posted: July 12, 2017, 12:00 PM Post
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Braves call and say Julio Teheran for Villar - Do you do it? Both Buy low guys

Braves do have Albies at AAA though


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Posted: July 12, 2017, 12:04 PM Post
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I think it would take Villar and 2 of the Brewers top 10 prospects to net Teheran.


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Posted: July 12, 2017, 12:05 PM Post
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mlloyd10 said:
Braves call and say Julio Teheran for Villar - Do you do it? Both Buy low guys

Braves do have Albies at AAA though


Probably not much of a motivation for the Braves to make that deal but I think that's a ripoff. Both guys are "down" but Teheran has much more sustained success and he's more valuable when he's up.


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Posted: July 12, 2017, 12:21 PM Post
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I'd do that Viillar/Teheran trade fairly easily. Have a stopgap fillin type in Perez/Sogard already for a year or two until another prospect is ready.


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Posted: July 12, 2017, 1:12 PM Post
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Go get Hand from San Diego.


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Posted: July 13, 2017, 8:56 AM Post
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I think the Padres are asking WAY too much for Hand.

I'd rather go get Kyle Barraclough from the Marlins for cheaper.

No Way the Braves would do a Villar/Teheran swap, BTW.



Also, I added RHP Marcus Stroman, Toronto Blue Jays, Contract 17= $3.4M, 18=Arb, 19= Arb, 20=Arb

to the list to start this start of Young and Controllable SP targets


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Posted: July 13, 2017, 10:00 AM Post
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Archer for Ray/Ortiz/Woodruff - Enough?


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Posted: July 13, 2017, 12:09 PM Post
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Hamels and Darvish could becoming available per Rotoworld. Hmm......


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Posted: July 13, 2017, 12:39 PM Post
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I think the price, even for the rental that it is, for Darvish is going to be too high for us to even really consider it. But I sure would love to see him throw those breaking pitches of his in a Brewers uniform.


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Posted: July 13, 2017, 12:40 PM Post
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There are a lot of players who will be available. I'd be willing to pay big (so Brinson and a lot more) for Archer, Stroman, or Fulmer. If the Brewers don't want to gut the system, there are still plenty of options. I also won't be upset if they don't acquire a starting pitcher. The trade today for Webb is already a move to help the big league team. I am plenty good with lower key deals like that.

Basically, I don't think there's really a wrong play for the Brewers, short of giving up big prospects for a rental player, which I don't believe Stearns would ever do. Nice position in which to be.


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Posted: July 13, 2017, 1:28 PM Post
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If the Marlins start trading of OFs the Brewers might be a good fit to ship some young ones back. I'd have some interest in a Straily+Phelps deal.


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Posted: July 13, 2017, 10:01 PM Post
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I know it is not the sexy pickup but I would grab Trevor Cahill. Can pitch out of the rotation until (Guerra, Chase, Woodruff) come back and then can just shift over to the pen and solidify things there.

Bargain basement price and has playoff experience with being on 2015 cubs team.


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Posted: July 13, 2017, 10:37 PM Post
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mlloyd10 said:
Braves call and say Julio Teheran for Villar - Do you do it? Both Buy low guys

Braves do have Albies at AAA though


I probably do because Villar is such a moron when it comes to understanding baseball. But lets be real here, there is almost no chance Teheran is an above average pitcher. He has pitched enough innings that he has probably showed his true talent level. He has a well below average K rate in that time. He has proven to be homer prone and is a fly ball pitcher. He isn't the type that heavily suppresses hard contact. There is no reason to expect him to be better long term than say Chase Anderson. The park was heavily deflating his ERA but no reason to expect that lasts.


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Posted: July 13, 2017, 10:59 PM Post
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mlloyd10 said:
Braves call and say Julio Teheran for Villar - Do you do it? Both Buy low guys

Braves do have Albies at AAA though


Yes, unfortunately the Braves aren't on crack.

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Posted: July 13, 2017, 11:03 PM Post
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A Swing and A Drive said:
Or I could have simply responded...

"Why do you believe humans need water?"

Fact: humans indeed need water so why would you even ask it to begin with

The Brewers, however, don't "need" a high level SP like you only suggest they target hence the question (and I did say in my 2nd post I should have rephrased to "high level" vs a SP in general but why would you pay attention to that!)

I do enjoy the Kewshaw remarks though because it speaks directly to the overall point I made, which you still won't grasp after this


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Posted: July 14, 2017, 8:02 AM Post
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Cole Hamels should be added to the first post.


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Posted: July 14, 2017, 12:12 PM Post
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Still just on board with JA Happ trade if we can't get by with Woodruff. Nothing else really excites me without some work on salary or a lower prospect tradeaway. Happ has his stretches while not being terrible in other stretches. Modest salary hit with an offseason to maybe trade him for 80 cents on the dollar you spent renting him.


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