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Posted: November 02, 2017, 2:12 PM Post
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https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/11/ ... tions.html

Pretty interesting read. Has the Brewers being a big player and signing Arrieta (4 years, $100 million) and resigning Swarzak and Walker. That would make for a pretty interesting off-season.


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Posted: November 02, 2017, 2:54 PM Post
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Arrieta is a tool. No thanks.

“There's a fine line between being confident and cocky, or overconfident. This is an extremely humbling game. But if you don't believe in yourself, no one else is going to believe in you.”


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Posted: November 02, 2017, 2:55 PM Post
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Arrieta 4 years @ $100m
Walker 2 years @ $20m
Swarzak 2 years @ $14m

The latter two I would definitely do, the first one is difficult for me to swallow. Would the Brewers be better getting Lynn for 4 years @ $56 AND/OR Cobb 4 years @ $48? Maybe it would be better to sign Morrow for 3 years @ $24 and really try to shorten the game with a Swarzak-Morrow-Knebel 7-8-9? Arrieta, while certainly in excellent shape, could be an albatross in year 4. Flip side, Arietta could head a very above average rotation with the return of Nelson (Arietta-Anderson-Nelson-Davies-Woodruff sure looks strong).

In Stearns we trust...


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Posted: November 02, 2017, 3:03 PM Post
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If Jake Arrieta gives me 3 great years he can fall off a cliff the fourth year and I won't shed a single tear.


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Posted: November 02, 2017, 3:05 PM Post
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I just don't see us being a player for Arrieta. I know we have payroll flexibility, but this just seems like too much of a Doug Melvin move to me - giving too much money to a SP past his prime years and regretting it 2 years into the 4 year deal. I don't like the fact that Arrieta has regressed the past two seasons after that phenomenal 2015 season, and he just doesn't go deep into games anymore. Ultimately, I think one of the bigger market teams ends up with him, as they are in a much better position to gamble on a guy like Arrieta.


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Posted: November 02, 2017, 4:06 PM Post
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I really like Anthony Swarzak (2 years, 14 million) and Tommy Hunter (2 years, 12 million) with those contracts. I also think Alex Avila (2 years, 16 million) and Neil Walker (2 years, 20 million) would be solid buys. Not really interested in any of the other deals listed on this page.


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Posted: November 02, 2017, 4:17 PM Post
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If one more person say “such a Doug Melvin move” I may burn down Miller Park. It was MARK ATTANASIO pushing for most of if not all of those big contracts for aging pitchers.


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Posted: November 02, 2017, 4:29 PM Post
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MrTPlush said:
If one more person say “such a Doug Melvin move” I may burn down Miller Park. It was MARK ATTANASIO pushing for most of if not all of those big contracts for aging pitchers.


Fair enough. I guess I'm just hoping that DS exerts a bit more power in pushing back at Mark A. if he tries to force his hand in making deals like this for aging SP's past their prime. I agree with you that these really are probably Mark A. moves, but the fact is - Doug Melvin was the GM when the moves went down - so right or wrong, he gets credit for them.


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Posted: November 02, 2017, 5:08 PM Post
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MrTPlush said:
If Jake Arrieta gives me 3 great years he can fall off a cliff the fourth year and I won't shed a single tear.


Agreed, but the size of the "if" means I want nothing to do with that signing. 100mil/4 years when we've got a lot of true potential in our prospects smacks of a regrettable move.


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Posted: November 02, 2017, 5:25 PM Post
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The nice thing about most of our talent being pre arby is that we could actually afford to make a signing like Arietta without it having too much financial impact (relatively speaking). I would feel a lot better about a deal like that if it were only 3 years though.


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Posted: November 02, 2017, 5:38 PM Post
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I had omitted Chatwood during the initial look-through as I think that contract is way lower than what he'll actually get. But if his numbers really are 3 years, 20 million then he would be near the top of my want list along with Swarzak and Hunter.


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Posted: November 02, 2017, 5:44 PM Post
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if it means help getting to an winning a WS then i am all for it.


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Posted: November 02, 2017, 5:48 PM Post
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I wouldn’t mind going crazy for a few relievers and then Walker or a starter. Make a super pen.


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Posted: November 02, 2017, 6:12 PM Post
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If the Cardinals non-tender Trevor Rosenthal I would look at possibly picking him up and seeing if he can be that dominant pitcher again.

I don't want to see the Brewers going after any free agent starting pitchers this off season there just isn't any I would want to pick up.


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Posted: November 02, 2017, 6:15 PM Post
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I wouldn’t mind going crazy for a few relievers and then Walker or a starter. Make a super pen.

This is my preferred way to build a consistently competitive small market baseball team. The Brewers have never had an issue with drafting or finding hitting. Focus your draft on SP so you don't have to buy Suppan, Lohse or Garza. I am all for buying RP to shorten the back end of the game as I think the Brewers can compete with the financials for RP much easier than SP. A pen full of Knebel, Hader, Swarzak and say Brandon Morrow is the start to an elite bullpen.


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Posted: November 02, 2017, 6:28 PM Post
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I agree with building a elite pen, been saying for years it's one area where small market teams can compete with anyone.

That said, I don't like short term contracts at this stage. I want to see innings given to young guts from the system. There will be a time to buy a reliever or two, and a bat. I guess it's because I think they are still early on in the rebuilding process.


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Posted: November 02, 2017, 6:28 PM Post
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Assuming the Brewers give Hader every opportunity to succeed as a starter, I go for another lefty in the pen - Jake McGee or Tony Watson. That they didn't call up Webb in September implies they don't have a lot of confidence in him.


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Posted: November 02, 2017, 10:08 PM Post
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Arrieta for 4/100? vs. Lynn for 4/56? We'd sign away a QO to the Cubs. Why doesn't Arrieta bet on himself to actually be a 25mil guy and take the QO, and test FA next season.

14mil per for a 3WAR SP in Lynn? Way low estimate. but if that is all it costs. #1 to that!


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Posted: November 02, 2017, 10:51 PM Post
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I’m fine if they trust letting the young guys play, but I am definitely not opposed to bigger money.

I think there is some overvaluation with our own system as to what it can do at the MLB level. I love the depth, but if you do nothing with the rotation, you get an injury or two and you’re throwing Taylor Jungmann out there as your #4 with an unproven Woodruff at 3 or something like that.

You’ve probably got an 84 win team with the same roster sans Nelson.

That’s not terrible if you have the right vision, but I just think there are things like “wanting to see what the young guys can do” are destined to underwhelm. I have little excitement in seeing Dubon come up. I have a feeling Jungmann and Guerra’s “let’s try this again” years don’t excite me.

I love the depth of the system but nobody knocking on the door save for Brinson and Hader if he gets it right move the needle, and that’s fine.

If you were forced to go 3 years with Walker and he regresses at the end, don’t be afraid to go to Hiura. If Arrieta falls off that cliff in year 4, make him a $25 million setup man and bring up Peralta.

I think the Brewers have a somewhat unique situation given they did not tank for elite players but have a deep farm system. Spend your money to acquire players and keep shuffling the waves through. I’m not sure I see a 4 year window of 100+ win seasons, but I see a way to consistently win 85+ games for a decade and strike when the iron is hot. Keep the contracts short and keep your system depth.

I won’t say we have the magic farm system pixie dust to work the same magic as the Cardinals, but I see an above average team for many years to come with depth at most positions in the organization and the ability to spend to fill the gaps.


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Posted: November 03, 2017, 1:56 AM Post
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MrTPlush said:
If one more person say “such a Doug Melvin move” I may burn down Miller Park. It was MARK ATTANASIO pushing for most of if not all of those big contracts for aging pitchers.


Uh, the owner is still there. If Stearns is strong enough to make his own decisions and Melvin wasn't than it's safe to call them "Doug Melvin moves"


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