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Posted: February 08, 2018, 9:53 AM Post
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McHugh, 30, posted strong results last year after a somewhat tepid 2016 effort, but only after missing a major chunk of the season due to injury. He ended up posting a 3.55 ERA with 8.8 K/9 and 2.8 BB/9 in 63 1/3 frames over a dozen starts.

Sounds like the Astro's might be interested in trading him per mlbtraderumors


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Posted: February 08, 2018, 9:57 AM Post
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Rotation depth is certainly nice, but the Brewers already have a ton of #3-4-type pitchers. I guess I'd consider it depending on the return, but I have a feeling the Astros are going to want more than what I would feel comfortable with.


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Posted: February 08, 2018, 10:04 AM Post
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He's only under control for two more years and as Joey Meyer Bombs has already stated, probably is viewed as a #3/#4 by most of the league so the price tag wouldn't be ridiculous. Probably valued as a 2 WAR player and I'd guess the Astros would probably wouldn't realistically seek a top 100 prospect but would like to get two top ten organizational type prospects back. Maybe something like two players off the list of Mauricio Dubon, Trent Grisham, Freddy Peralta.


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Posted: February 08, 2018, 10:05 AM Post
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JosephC said:
He's only under control for two more years and as Joey Meyer Bombs has already stated, probably is viewed as a #3/#4 by most of the league so the price tag wouldn't be ridiculous. Probably valued as a 2 WAR player and I'd guess the Astros would probably wouldn't realistically seek a top 100 prospect but would like to get two top ten organizational type prospects back. Maybe something like two players off the list of Mauricio Dubon, Trent Grisham, Freddy Peralta.

For that price I'd be a VERY hard no!


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Posted: February 08, 2018, 10:09 AM Post
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I don't view McHugh as a #3/4 type. He's probably relatively on par with what we'll get out of Chacin, maybe slightly better. He's going to cost probably $11-12 million over 2 years while Chacin is getting $16. So not much surplus value to be had for starters. As has been noted, we need to be aiming higher than these #3-5 types if we're serious about competing.

If the right trade doesn't materialize, we save our chips and make moves at the deadline. Once these FA's sign, I suspect many of the big market teams that are contending will be extremely strapped for cash if they want to stay under the luxury tax. We will have a massive advantage over many teams on our ability to trade for high end starters at the deadline.


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Posted: February 08, 2018, 10:35 AM Post
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This has potential. Maybe pieces like Perez, Wilkerson and a Grisham? This would be the trade to make if they have no luck signing one of the big 4 free agent pitchers. It still gives you four experienced starters at the beginning of the season.


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Posted: February 08, 2018, 10:38 AM Post
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I think I would rather target McHugh over Odorizzi.


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Posted: February 08, 2018, 1:49 PM Post
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I like McCugh a heck of a lot more than risking a long term deal for Lynn or Cobb. Stearns sure knows him. His numbers should improve in the NL too.


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Posted: February 08, 2018, 2:14 PM Post
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I just looked up his numbers, and I must say that I was a bit surprised at how solid McHugh has been thus far in his career. Is he the TOR starter that I think this rotation still needs? No, he isn't. But, he's put up some pretty good numbers pitching in the AL and in that bandbox of a stadium in Houston over the past 4 season.

As someone else mentioned though - you'd only have him for this year and next before he hits FA. And again - while he'd be a nice addition to the staff, I'm not sure if he pushes the needle as a TOR type guy would. But, he also shouldn't cost us nearly as much as Archer would in prospects.

Certainly an interesting guy, and I agree that I might actually prefer him over someone like Odorizzi.


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Posted: February 08, 2018, 2:56 PM Post
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Would the Astros take Santana back?


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Posted: February 08, 2018, 6:59 PM Post
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McHugh is a great target for us. He's quietly been a 3-4 WAR pitcher, which is much better than a #4 in my opinion.

What does Houston want in return though?


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Posted: February 08, 2018, 8:45 PM Post
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DH is the only real glaring need for Houston. Santana is too much for just McHugh and I doubt Thames or Aguilar would do much for them.


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Posted: February 08, 2018, 9:34 PM Post
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You would think Thames would be a good fit in Houston. Brings a left handed bat to 1B and to their DH position.


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Posted: February 08, 2018, 9:48 PM Post
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AJ Reed is still a good LH 1B/DH prospect. Plus they have Marisnick and Derek fisher for LF with Martin Gonzalez and Gattis also. Kyle Rucker might be up in 2018 as well. No need for another hitter


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Posted: February 09, 2018, 12:01 PM Post
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Brew4U said:
You would think Thames would be a good fit in Houston. Brings a left handed bat to 1B and to their DH position.


In terms of OPS+ Thames would have been their 7th best hitter last year, narrowly beating out their current 1B Gurriel by 1 point. Take out Thames's monstrous first month and he's probably not an upgrade over any of their non-catcher hitters.


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Posted: February 09, 2018, 12:13 PM Post
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Brew4U said:
You would think Thames would be a good fit in Houston. Brings a left handed bat to 1B and to their DH position.


In terms of OPS+ Thames would have been their 7th best hitter last year, narrowly beating out their current 1B Gurriel by 1 point. Take out Thames's monstrous first month and he's probably not an upgrade over any of their non-catcher hitters.


Thames had an OPS+ of 147 last season vs RHP and an OPS against RHP of .933

The Stros had a team OPS of .827


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Posted: February 10, 2018, 7:36 PM Post
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The problem with sending Thames to Houston is that Gurriel and Marwin Gonzalez already have fairly pronounced splits favoring RHP. Jesus Aguilar would actually make more sense for them to plug in at 1B/DH. (I doubt that's enough for McHugh though)


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Posted: March 04, 2018, 8:18 PM Post
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We need to go snag this guy. He’s not going to be in their rotation and deserves to be. He could be a very underrated pitcher for the crew which may very well be the theme of their staff this season.


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Posted: March 04, 2018, 8:29 PM Post
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WEll seems all agree that we still need pitching


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Posted: March 04, 2018, 8:35 PM Post
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brewmann04 said:
WEll seems all agree that we still need pitching


...at the right price.


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