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Posted: May 18, 2018, 12:41 PM Post
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The Rangers are open for business.

Texas understands they can't win and are willing to make deals for their veterans.

I don't see any hitters really of interest. From the pitchers, there's Cole Hamels, Doug Fister and Bartolo Colon.

Colon and Fister are having good seasons, but due to age and a spotty track record. Neither is under contract beyond 2018.

Hamels is probably the most interesting player. He's pitching pretty well - although FIP doesn't like his 2018 performance. At 34, he's not a dominant player anymore, and he makes a lot ($23+M this year and an option for 2019 (with a $6M buyout). I don't know if he has a no trade clause.

None of these guys should cost much - and Hamels would need to have some money kicked in if we were interested.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/05/ ... eltre.html

Personally, I'd pass on all of these guys - but if you're looking to add starting pitching depth, it might be a way to get someone now as opposed to waiting until the deadline.


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Posted: May 18, 2018, 1:15 PM Post
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Wow is their team absolute trash. Woof.


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Posted: May 18, 2018, 1:20 PM Post
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Adrian Beltre is on the DL now. Is in the last year of contract. Would it be with bringing him on in July for a 3b and 1b option? Can’t gaurentee that agulair continues his ways or Thames comes back hitting his stride. Not sure I’d go for it, but the Beltre fan in me wouldn’t mind seeing him.


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Posted: May 18, 2018, 1:24 PM Post
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I don't follow the AL much, so I don't know how good they are. But, I think we have enough mid-level starting rotation options. I think you target a true #1 or improve 2B/C. It doesn't sound like the Rangers pitchers are at that level of pitcher.


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Posted: May 18, 2018, 1:28 PM Post
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I guess I have mild interest in Joey Gallo as a down the stretch bench bat if the Rangers go into fire sale mode.

While he doesn't fit the 'hitter' mold of other corner infield reclamation projects like Lind, Shaw, etc ... he is a Branyan disciple whose power numbers should uptick a bit playing at Miller Park, although I know Arlington is ok to hit in as well.

Curious if a new opportunity/new hitting coach/new ballpark would bring something out of him. The power is real.


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Posted: May 18, 2018, 1:28 PM Post
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The only guy they have that is even kind of intriguing to me is Rougned Odor, and he was pretty bad last year so it would have to just be a giveaway flyer that he can get back to where he was pre-2017. He's still only 24 though and the Rangers signed him to a long-term deal so I doubt they want to deal him much less for nothing.


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Posted: May 18, 2018, 1:43 PM Post
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Things that aren’t happening:

1) Acquiring Beltre to be on our bench. Doesn’t need much explaining.

2) Joey Gallo as a bench bat once we get him on a bargain in a trade. The Rangers will drive that talent into its grave before they dump him at 24 years old. He still managed a 3 WAR last year...not too shabby.


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Posted: May 18, 2018, 2:13 PM Post
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Gallo is exactly the type of high K low average high power player that Stearns seems to be shying away from. We got enough of those types already on the team. No thanks.


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Posted: May 18, 2018, 3:49 PM Post
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Hamels is the only guy I'd want. And I wouldn't give that much for him, so I doubt he'd end up here on my watch.


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Posted: May 18, 2018, 7:10 PM Post
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Kind of surprised that nobody brought up Robinson Chirinos. Yes, he's been bad at the plate this year (.198/.280/.414/.694). But from 2015-2017 his slash line is .240/.337/.476/.813. Like Pina against lefties? Chirinos slashed .220/.318/.446/.764 against righties from 2015-2017 and that might not be great but it's more than the team would get out of Bandy. Simply a product of the home park? .223/.322/.473/.795 on the road from 2015-2017. Chirinos is only a part timer and is only good for about 70 games per year, which makes him a good fit if the Brewer's aren't looking to kick Pina to the curb. Chirinos' contract isn't an issue at all. Due about 1.7 million for the remainder of this season and has a 1 million dollar buyout for next year (only 2.375 million if the option year is picked up). His average seasonal WAR between Baseball Reference and Fangraphs from 2015-2017 is about 1.7 which is surprisingly good considering he has only averaged about 70 games per season. And while the production has been pretty good and the contract is pretty low, it's doubtful that the Rangers would put a high price-tag on him because he is getting up in age, is not having a great season and has been a backup/part-timer for almost his entire career.


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Posted: May 19, 2018, 6:23 AM Post
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My dream is Brewers acquire Hamels and Machado in July. Now that would send chills to the north side of Chicago and the rest of the NL. Hamels could be this year's version of Verlander.


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Posted: May 19, 2018, 7:37 AM Post
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Acquiring Hamels would look like this:

Hamels
Anderson
Davies
Chacín
Guerra (Nelson)



Acquiring Machado:

Cain- CF
Yelich- LF
Machado- SS
Shaw- 3B
Santana- RF
Braun/Thames/Aguilar- 1B
Villar- 2B
Pina- C
Pitcher


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Posted: May 19, 2018, 8:46 AM Post
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Let me just say I love Bartolo Colon wherever he's pitching and that he'll never get too old to play. Let's get it done lol


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Posted: May 19, 2018, 10:38 AM Post
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I’d take Hamels if the cost is small. He’s a veteran presence that can produce and lead. He can give the younger pitchers a role model.


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Posted: May 21, 2018, 1:12 PM Post
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Hamels does have a no trade clause for what it's worth.


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Posted: May 21, 2018, 1:22 PM Post
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Austin Tatious said:
I’d take Hamels if the cost is small. He’s a veteran presence that can produce and lead. He can give the younger pitchers a role model.


Is it worth $20+ million dollars to acquire a cliche that we are not completely sure exists in him?

As a pitcher I'd be on the fence. I'm all for the salary absorption type moves and his K/9 is promising but we may be stretched pretty thin in 2019 with his buyout or if we pick up the option.


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Posted: May 21, 2018, 1:53 PM Post
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I'm not sure what to make of Hamels. The ERA and K rate is good, but he's got his worst ever walk rate - and he's giving up HRs at a really high rate. The latter can just be a fluky thing - but who knows. Often times you need to see him pitch (which I haven't) and really get a better feel for his skill level.

Ultimately, his no-trade clause would be a serious issue. He might request his $20M option be vested to accept the deal. That's not insignificant - but maybe the team would be happy to have him for a year and a half. Adding him may preclude the team from making any major moves in the offseason (which might not be a big deal).

I wouldn't give up much for Hamels as his salary is already really high.


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Posted: May 22, 2018, 11:13 AM Post
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I was going to say do a mega deal for Andrus, Odor, and Hamels. But then I remembered that Andrus is injured and the last major trade like this was never except in video games.

I wonder if the Rangers would take Arcia, Villar, Peralta/Burnes, Phillips and Erceg for Andrus and Odor. To much or not enough?


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Posted: May 22, 2018, 12:19 PM Post
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I'd think Hamels is the real only option to me. And it would have to be pretty much a salary dump type of trade where we basically give up no legit prospects in exchange for taking on that money. I'd rather spend $$ than prospects, I want to hold all the starting pitching prospects.


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Posted: May 22, 2018, 12:57 PM Post
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If we take on that contract, we would pretty much be done adding. I think I pass.


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