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Offline  Whit Merrifield
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Posted: July 18, 2018, 1:34 PM Post
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Just saw this article posted by some guys over at the Royals SB nation site:

https://www.royalsreview.com/2018/7/18/ ... e-deadline

If his proposition is all it would take to get Merrifield, I think this trade would have been made already. It seems a bit light to me. Would LOVE to have a guy like Merrifield with control for the next few years but I think it would take more than what is proposed.


TL;DR - Trade Corey Ray, Kodi Meideros, Zach Brown for Whit Merrifield


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Posted: July 18, 2018, 1:39 PM Post
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jonescm128 said:
TL;DR - Trade Corey Ray, Kodi Meideros, Zach Brown for Whit Merrifield

Pass on that. Between Merrifield turning 30 in January and Hiura doing well in AA, I don't think Merrifield brings enough marginal future value to sacrifice the long-term value of those three guys.


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Posted: July 18, 2018, 1:39 PM Post
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I wouldn't say that is light. Ray is a former 5th pick in the draft who is having a very nice season. Meideros is another former 1st rounder pitching very well in AA. Of course, we all know Brown is pitching great at AA as well. Just because a deal doesn't include Burnes or Hiura doesn't mean it is light. This one would sting.


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Posted: July 18, 2018, 1:45 PM Post
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Light? That seems like an overpay particularly with Hiura coming fast.

The bullpen is not our weakness, that starting pitching is. Till it proves otherwise, on paper, it’s a pretty bad group.


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Posted: July 18, 2018, 1:48 PM Post
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Joey Meyer Bombs said:
I wouldn't say that is light. Ray is a former 5th pick in the draft who is having a very nice season. Meideros is another former 1st rounder pitching very well in AA. Of course, we all know Brown is pitching great at AA as well. Just because a deal doesn't include Burnes or Hiura doesn't mean it is light. This one would sting.


I am probably higher on Merrifield than most. I like his versatility, high contact/low K rate (which this team desperately needs), great speed, and he gets on base at good clip. Getting a talent like him for the next few years means we don't have to throw out Perez, Villar, Miller, etc.


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Posted: July 18, 2018, 1:49 PM Post
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82brewcrew82 said:
Light? That seems like an overpay particularly with Hiura coming fast.


Yes but Merrifield can play 4 positions and for as much as the Brewers value versatility...


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Posted: July 18, 2018, 1:50 PM Post
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jonescm128 said:
Just saw this article posted by some guys over at the Royals SB nation site:

https://www.royalsreview.com/2018/7/18/ ... e-deadline

If his proposition is all it would take to get Merrifield, I think this trade would have been made already. It seems a bit light to me. Would LOVE to have a guy like Merrifield with control for the next few years but I think it would take more than what is proposed.


TL;DR - Trade Corey Ray, Kodi Meideros, Zach Brown for Whit Merrifield


I think it is only light if you are assuming Corey Ray is the guy from last year not the one turning the corner in a big way this year and if you think Meideros is the guy from two years ago not the guy this year who has had some top level games and if you think Brown is not what his numbers suggest


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Posted: July 18, 2018, 1:55 PM Post
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jjfanec said:
jonescm128 said:
Just saw this article posted by some guys over at the Royals SB nation site:

https://www.royalsreview.com/2018/7/18/ ... e-deadline

If his proposition is all it would take to get Merrifield, I think this trade would have been made already. It seems a bit light to me. Would LOVE to have a guy like Merrifield with control for the next few years but I think it would take more than what is proposed.


TL;DR - Trade Corey Ray, Kodi Meideros, Zach Brown for Whit Merrifield


I think it is only light if you are assuming Corey Ray is the guy from last year not the one turning the corner in a big way this year and if you think Meideros is the guy from two years ago not the guy this year who has had some top level games and if you think Brown is not what his numbers suggest


I am also comparing it to what has been proposed for rental guys like Machado and Dozier. I would much rather give up this package for 4 years of Merrifield than a package headlined by Ortiz, Phillips, etc for 2 months of Machado. Control over a talent like Merrifield who sports a 124 wRC+ would be a great move IMO.


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Posted: July 18, 2018, 3:03 PM Post
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And That said:
jonescm128 said:
TL;DR - Trade Corey Ray, Kodi Meideros, Zach Brown for Whit Merrifield

Pass on that. Between Merrifield turning 30 in January and Hiura doing well in AA, I don't think Merrifield brings enough marginal future value to sacrifice the long-term value of those three guys.


I'm not sure I'd do that specific deal (I'm a big believer in Corey Ray and would like to see him develop here), but I certainly think Merrifield should be a target. Plugs straight in at 2B until Hiura is ready, or acts as insurance if Hiura doesn't make it (The elbow would be the likeliest cause of that I suspect). He has played 3B, 1B, RF, LF and even CF for the Royals, so he'd also be an option to spell Shaw against lefties and replace Perez role backing up the corner OF. He's not a utility player in the sense that Perez is, more in the way that Zobrist or Happ are; everyday players but not at a fixed position. So it's both an immediate upgrade, and a great fit for the roster. Not worried about his age. He's a bit of a late bloomer and we get his age 30-33 seasons.

So not a fan of that specific deal, but it's still a trade for 4 years of team control of a 3+ WAR player so value-wise it's not unreasonable.


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Posted: July 18, 2018, 3:17 PM Post
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jjfanec said:
jonescm128 said:
Just saw this article posted by some guys over at the Royals SB nation site:

https://www.royalsreview.com/2018/7/18/ ... e-deadline

If his proposition is all it would take to get Merrifield, I think this trade would have been made already. It seems a bit light to me. Would LOVE to have a guy like Merrifield with control for the next few years but I think it would take more than what is proposed.


TL;DR - Trade Corey Ray, Kodi Meideros, Zach Brown for Whit Merrifield


I think it is only light if you are assuming Corey Ray is the guy from last year not the one turning the corner in a big way this year and if you think Meideros is the guy from two years ago not the guy this year who has had some top level games and if you think Brown is not what his numbers suggest


Right, those would be good targets in any trade as all 3 are having very good years. I've always been high on Medeiros and his incredible stuff, I hope we don't trade him at all.

That package seems very wishful, I'm not interested at that price.


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Posted: July 18, 2018, 3:17 PM Post
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While it has not received as much play Merrifield has had his own issues with old Tweets and it would get worse if he joined the same team as Hader. Unfortunate it comes to that but don't think the Brewers can go after him right now.


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Posted: July 18, 2018, 3:18 PM Post
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Heads up but looks like they are gonna get Whit under the same bus they got Hader with.


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Posted: July 18, 2018, 3:28 PM Post
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Heads up but looks like they are gonna get Whit under the same bus they got Hader with.


links?

Also, is Trout also getting looked at for his twitter account? I saw something that he might be in the do do as well?


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Posted: July 18, 2018, 3:37 PM Post
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What am I missing on Merrifield? Two recent first rounders and a possible org Top 5 arm? Is that a joke? I'd bet a large sum that Hiura would outproduce this guy at the plate rest of this year if given the opportunity.


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Posted: July 18, 2018, 3:38 PM Post
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What am I missing on Merrifield? Two recent first rounders and a possible org Top 5 arm? Is that a joke? I'd bet a large sum that Hiura would outproduce this guy at the plate this year if given the opportunity.


You'd have to give odds, that's a sucker bet for anybody picking Merrifield. The guy is a decent player with team control, not really someone you want playing everyday on a contending team.


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Posted: July 18, 2018, 3:40 PM Post
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turborickey said:
jw5511986 said:
Heads up but looks like they are gonna get Whit under the same bus they got Hader with.


links?

Also, is Trout also getting looked at for his twitter account? I saw something that he might be in the do do as well?


https://twitter.com/zetterhut/status/1019448520263241728

Maybe I'm not sensitive enough, but people are getting a little carried away with these (not talking about Hader's tweets). Merrifield isn't spreading hate on a group of people or putting people down. These words were used a lot 5+ years ago. Trout is the same situation as Whit's.


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Posted: July 18, 2018, 3:42 PM Post
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Joey Meyer Bombs said:
I wouldn't say that is light. Ray is a former 5th pick in the draft who is having a very nice season. Meideros is another former 1st rounder pitching very well in AA. Of course, we all know Brown is pitching great at AA as well. Just because a deal doesn't include Burnes or Hiura doesn't mean it is light. This one would sting.


We will never get 4 years of a 4 WAR player who can play multiple positions for that package. No way.


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Posted: July 18, 2018, 3:42 PM Post
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[url]Check out @zetterhut’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/zetterhut/status/10 ... 41728?s=09[/url]


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Posted: July 18, 2018, 3:43 PM Post
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OnaBadger58 said:
turborickey said:
jw5511986 said:
Heads up but looks like they are gonna get Whit under the same bus they got Hader with.


links?

Also, is Trout also getting looked at for his twitter account? I saw something that he might be in the do do as well?


https://twitter.com/zetterhut/status/1019448520263241728

Maybe I'm not sensitive enough, but people are getting a little carried away with these (not talking about Hader's tweets). Merrifield isn't spreading hate on a group of people or putting people down. These words were used a lot 5+ years ago. Trout is the same situation as Whit's.


How do those tweets not constitute putting people down? 5 years ago, saying those words was still very bad.


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Posted: July 18, 2018, 3:45 PM Post
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OnaBadger58 said:
turborickey said:
jw5511986 said:
Heads up but looks like they are gonna get Whit under the same bus they got Hader with.


links?

Also, is Trout also getting looked at for his twitter account? I saw something that he might be in the do do as well?


https://twitter.com/zetterhut/status/1019448520263241728

Maybe I'm not sensitive enough, but people are getting a little carried away with these (not talking about Hader's tweets). Merrifield isn't spreading hate on a group of people or putting people down. These words were used a lot 5+ years ago. Trout is the same situation as Whit's.


Like you, I'm not as sensitive to this stuff as most seem to be.

Except, the R word is viewed as a hate word and is putting people down. Same with the F word in that tweet. That is 100% a gay slur and has always been.

If Hader goes down for what he said, this can be lumped into the same catagory when it comes to offensive language.


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