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Posted: December 03, 2018, 9:17 PM Post
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I think they add a low risk starter in FA think it will come in the winter meetings.


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Posted: December 03, 2018, 10:01 PM Post
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KCBrewerfan34 said:
Jaylyn said:
I don't think Stearns will go in for a TOR type. I believe he will once again, look at the lower end of the market. Bring in a couple of bullpen types, and one starter. I'm thinking a Derek Holland or another reclamation project like Drew Pomeranz, Shelby Miller or Clay Buchholz.



1 game from the World Series and this is the plan. TOR starter not needed. This can't be real? [smile]


TOR starter coming from within: Corbin Burnes

The David Stearns era: Controllable Young Talent. Watch the Jedi work his magic!


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Posted: December 03, 2018, 10:04 PM Post
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I think they'll sign Happ and trade Anderson.


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Posted: December 04, 2018, 10:35 AM Post
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#Brewers have spoken with #Yankees about a Sonny Gray trade, source confirms @MaxWildstein report. @MLB @MLBNetwork
https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/10 ... 6820888576


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Posted: December 04, 2018, 10:36 AM Post
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John Morosii is saying we have talked with Yankees about Gray.


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Posted: December 04, 2018, 10:41 AM Post
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#Brewers have spoken with #Yankees about a Sonny Gray trade, source confirms @MaxWildstein report. @MLB @MLBNetwork
https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/10 ... 6820888576


I think Gray would be a solid reclamation project, provided the Brewers don't give up a lot of value to acquire him.


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Posted: December 04, 2018, 10:42 AM Post
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Not sure if this really tells us anything? I'm guessing Stearns talks to just about every team with tradeable assets. Says nothing about how serious those talks really were. Morosi basically told us something that we pretty much already knew.


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Posted: December 06, 2018, 10:36 AM Post
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With the knee issues and drop off in production, could Michael Fulmer be a nice buy-low(er) candidate?

Tigers could use a bit of everything, SP, SS and OF look like their biggest needs.


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Posted: December 07, 2018, 12:22 PM Post
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I like the Tigers as trade partners and am very interested in Matt Boyd as a starter and Shane Greene as a relief arm.

Not extremely sexy names by any means but I like the idea of the Brewers getting guys before the breakout as opposed to paying for them right after the career year. Boyd definitely found some good things last year, his new improved slider that he spent last winter designing on advice from James Paxton and data at Driveline.

Some other data that interested me with Boyd

"Fourseam Fastball WHIFF rate percentiles (200+ pitches)
(Long list of pitchers with good fastballs)
56.8% Wei-Yin Chen
-> 56.2% Luis Castillo
55.6% Matt Boyd" source

"Opponents hitting just .174 against it with a 33 percent whiff rate" source

"The most-ditched secondary pitch so far this year among starters is Matt Boyd’s changeup (down 12%). It’s a decent straight change but the slider has kept the same good whiff rate with ramped up usage.. I think it speaks well to him having another wrinkle in future." source

Boyd was destroyed by the home run last year and his home/road splits are incredibly ugly, but he looks to have a pretty strong repertoire of pitches and I think would be exactly the type of arm the Brewers could bring in and provide some data to and see a dramatic take off.


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Posted: December 08, 2018, 10:39 AM Post
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Anibal Sanchez and his cutter is this year's Chacin. I like Boyd as well, but his numbers made him the Det #1 pitcher and DET has access to those stats too. 1+1 of ASanchez would be cheaper than MBoyd and a kicker.

He would feed well into the convo about a low risk starter over on the bottom of page 4.


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Posted: December 10, 2018, 2:03 PM Post
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If #Indians trade Corey Kluber, they would like to receive a young outfielder in the deal. So it is not a surprise that the #Dodgers (Alex Verdugo), #Yankees (Estevan Florial) and #Brewers (Corey Ray) all are potential landing spots for Kluber. @MLB @MLBNetwork


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Posted: December 10, 2018, 2:16 PM Post
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If #Indians trade Corey Kluber, they would like to receive a young outfielder in the deal. So it is not a surprise that the #Dodgers (Alex Verdugo), #Yankees (Estevan Florial) and #Brewers (Corey Ray) all are potential landing spots for Kluber. @MLB @MLBNetwork


Makes a lot of sense for the Indians to be interested in Ray. I have a feeling they would have to give up a couple other big pieces besides Ray, though. Package would be big.


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Posted: December 10, 2018, 2:23 PM Post
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I would give up Ray, Burnes, Peralta and Thames. For Kluber


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Posted: December 10, 2018, 2:37 PM Post
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I would give up Ray, Burnes, Peralta and Thames. For Kluber


Burnes AND Peralta?

Nope, too much. I'd do Peralta plus, but not Burnes...


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Posted: December 10, 2018, 3:32 PM Post
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PDCBalla said:
I would give up Ray, Burnes, Peralta and Thames. For Kluber


Sheesh..lets try to keep some of our pitching at least!


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Posted: December 10, 2018, 3:34 PM Post
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You keep one of your top 3 (Woodruff) plus add a year in year out Cy Young candidate for three years.


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PDCBalla said:
You keep one of your top 3 (Woodruff) plus add a year in year out Cy Young candidate for three years.


I'd love to bring in Kluber but giving up Burnes and Peralta, let alone also adding Ray is just a significant overpay for me. Though I think this offer is a lot closer to reality than what some other posters have suggested (like Ray + Santana).


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Posted: December 10, 2018, 3:44 PM Post
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To me if you're not going to give up Keston, you'd need to include three of Burnes, Woodruff, Peralta and Ray.


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Posted: December 10, 2018, 3:44 PM Post
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PDCBalla said:
You keep one of your top 3 (Woodruff) plus add a year in year out Cy Young candidate for three years.


I'd love to bring in Kluber but giving up Burnes and Peralta, let alone also adding Ray is just a significant overpay for me. Though I think this offer is a lot closer to reality than what some other posters have suggested (like Ray + Santana).


My suggestion was Ray, Santana, Knebel and Thames for Kluber and Kipnis. I don't think anyone suggested Ray and Santana alone for Kluber.


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