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Posted: January 09, 2019, 2:03 PM Post
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I could see something like a 2-year/$16-$18 million deal with Moose.


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Posted: January 09, 2019, 2:09 PM Post
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I was really hoping for an actual 2B in the off season, rather than the infield musical chairs scenario...


Perhaps I am misreading things and they feel that Hiura will be up this season. If that happens, you have Moose, Shaw and Perez to rotate between 3B and 1B with Aguilar based on matchups. They could start Perez at 3B against tough lefties. Not ideal in my mind, but if they feel that Moose provides more value than who they are looking at on the FA market at 2B, I get it. They were linked to Moose at this time last year, and obviously they traded for him and played him every day through the stretch run, so it's pretty obvious that they like him.


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Posted: January 09, 2019, 2:13 PM Post
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I was fine with Moustakas last year, shuffling Shaw over to 2B for the short term in order to fit a bat with playoff experience and all that. I'm less interested in it for the long term. Shaw was OK at 2B, but it's a waste of his very good defense at 3B. And he is at best a below-average defender at 2B. If the team is going for a "big" signing I'd prefer it to be a 2B.


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Posted: January 09, 2019, 2:17 PM Post
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I am guessing we have a lot of contract offers out there. Just like the reliever yesterday, you tell these guys that the first one to take it gets it. With how the offseason has gone, this is a pretty good strategy.


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I know Moose doesn't typically carry a strong OBP, but I always felt like I he was a tough out & didn't give away PAs. Plus his defense is so good.

I'd be happy to have him back, and like wallus points out, if Hiura forces his way into the lineup midseason, we'd have the versatility to make that happen & still get guys the types of PAs they should be getting.

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Posted: January 09, 2019, 7:15 PM Post
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^^^This, at least to a point. I think a solid, true 2B might be more obviously helpful, but Moose was a good Brewer until he became an NLCS K king (of course he had plenty of company in that zone).

It's also worth remembering that it only takes one injury to change the whole balance of things, so more quality depth is better than less depth. It worked out last year when Thames got hurt and Aguilar stepped in and played himself onto the All-Star team.


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Posted: January 10, 2019, 10:00 AM Post
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Outlander said:
From the guy on Twitter that broke the orginal Moustakas trade to the Brewers:

Hearing #Brewers have sent a contract offer to 3B Mike Moustakas
11:08 AM - 9 Jan 2019 from Port Orange, FL

https://twitter.com/bucksbrett/status/1 ... 8523045889


He doubled down late last night after the Grandal news broke that the Brewers are still in on Moose. Moose seems to be spending a lot of time with Yelich, Braun and Mike Attanasio out in LA this offseason. It wouldn't surprise me if he's got a contract offer from the Brewers in hand, and is only waiting on Machado to sign his mega deal to see if one of the runners up throw stupid money at him as a response to not landing Manny.


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Posted: January 10, 2019, 9:10 PM Post
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Moose turned down 15 million mutual option this year ( not that the Brewers would have picked that up). He'll be shooting for Lowrie $ at least in early January- two for 20.


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Posted: January 11, 2019, 7:53 AM Post
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Moose actually sacrificed some power for obp in his 200+ ab's with the Brewers. his batting average basically never changes, but he brought his walk rate up to 1/10 ab's, which is a decent ratio. It's possible that some of his incredibly aggressive approach was a Royals philosophy. I mean, Lo Cain's OBP improved a ton as well.


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Posted: January 11, 2019, 5:44 PM Post
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Moustakas seems like a cool guy but I don't know why anyone wants him back as a baseball player, especially since it requires moving a better player off his natural position.

If we want to do a soft platoon with Shaw, find a 2B/3B who can actually hit LHP well (which is not Moose)


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Posted: January 11, 2019, 7:14 PM Post
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Given shifting, I think the Brewers don’t care much about individual skills at 2b/3b. I think they view them as out-defenders. With proper positioning, they can overcome many issues


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Posted: January 14, 2019, 5:06 AM Post
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He's a power hitter who has a good glove and seems like a great clubhouse guy. Why not?


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Posted: January 14, 2019, 5:58 AM Post
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Cirilloing said:
He's a power hitter who has a good glove and seems like a great clubhouse guy. Why not?


Because he won't be cheap and he reaches base about 30% of the time.


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Posted: January 14, 2019, 6:28 AM Post
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It very likely could be nothing, but I noticed the St. Louis Cardinals Twitter account recently started following Moustakas. They were rumored to be on him earlier this off-season, but their infield is obviously now more crowded with the Goldschmidt addition. He does check two boxes they are currently in need of though, left handed bats and better defense.


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Posted: January 21, 2019, 8:57 AM Post
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Jon Heyman of Fancred reports that the Phillies maintain interest in free agent third baseman Mike Moustakas.

As Heyman notes though, their interest in Moustakas is likely entirely reliant on how their pursuit of Manny Machado turns out. The 30-year-old slugger hit .251/.315/.459 with 28 homers and 95 RBI in 152 games between the Royals and Brewers in 2018.

Source: Jon Heyman on TwitterJan 19 - 6:32 PM


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Posted: January 21, 2019, 9:09 AM Post
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adambr2 said:
Cirilloing said:
He's a power hitter who has a good glove and seems like a great clubhouse guy. Why not?


Because he won't be cheap and he reaches base about 30% of the time.


I agree. But if the price comes down and the years can be limited.... As for the obp, if he is batting #7 before Arcia and the pitcher that isn't as big a deal.

I do think he has one more big year in him.


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Posted: January 22, 2019, 11:15 PM Post
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Roderick said:
adambr2 said:
Cirilloing said:
He's a power hitter who has a good glove and seems like a great clubhouse guy. Why not?


Because he won't be cheap and he reaches base about 30% of the time.


I agree. But if the price comes down and the years can be limited.... As for the obp, if he is batting #7 before Arcia and the pitcher that isn't as big a deal.

I do think he has one more big year in him.


We are in win-now mode and we don't have to give up anything but money to get him. If he's the best non-superstar option remaining at 3B then spend the money.

But I do agree with limiting the years. No more than 2.


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Posted: January 23, 2019, 2:32 AM Post
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adambr2 said:
Cirilloing said:
He's a power hitter who has a good glove and seems like a great clubhouse guy. Why not?


Because he won't be cheap and he reaches base about 30% of the time.



And he adds little versatility. For the money we're likely to spend on Moose, I'd prefer we go after Marwin Gonzalez. Especially since Hirura is likely to be ready in the near future, and Gonzalez is a switch hitter who can put up decent numbers vs lefties(not great, but better than Moose) while covering basically every position on the field.

You're also asking Shaw to become a full time 2nd basemen and while it worked OK last year for a couple months, I don't like the move long term. We've already got a good left handed 3rd basemen. We don't really seem to have the luxury of adding another one IMO.


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Posted: January 23, 2019, 6:51 AM Post
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Instead of forking over a lot to get a redundant Moustakas, why not just sign Matt Davidson who has a career .804 OPS vs. LHP to use against LHP? Yeah he strikes out a lot, but he has power, and his K rate vs. lefties is lower than it is vs. RHP. His OBP went from .260 in 2017 to a respectable .319 last year.

Davidson might even be had on a minor league deal despite a decent WAR in 2018 of 1.2.


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Posted: January 23, 2019, 7:39 AM Post
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OnTheBlack said:
adambr2 said:
Cirilloing said:
He's a power hitter who has a good glove and seems like a great clubhouse guy. Why not?


Because he won't be cheap and he reaches base about 30% of the time.



And he adds little versatility. For the money we're likely to spend on Moose, I'd prefer we go after Marwin Gonzalez. Especially since Hirura is likely to be ready in the near future, and Gonzalez is a switch hitter who can put up decent numbers vs lefties(not great, but better than Moose) while covering basically every position on the field.

You're also asking Shaw to become a full time 2nd basemen and while it worked OK last year for a couple months, I don't like the move long term. We've already got a good left handed 3rd basemen. We don't really seem to have the luxury of adding another one IMO.


I agree with you completely regarding Gonzalez. He checks so many of the boxes that Stearns and Counsell seem to care about. While I'd much rather have Marwin, I'm not opposed to adding Moose should his price fall into a palatable range, though.


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