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Posted: January 25, 2019, 4:49 PM Post
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KeithStone53151 said:
coolhandluke121 said:
I don't disagree about his ability, but how is it realistic to have him on the 25 as a utility guy and not be the primary back-up at multiple positions even if everyone is healthy? Especially if you are one of the people saying they should often carry 13 pitchers? The numbers just don't work out at all. There are 8 positions to back up and only 4 back-ups. You can cover outfield with one back-up, but catcher takes one and only one of those spots. That leaves 2 players to back-up 4 infield spots. Who are you signing to be ahead of Perez at all 4 of them?


That's a very good point. I guess theoretically, it would be best to have guys in AAA ready to fill in. At 3b for example, if Shaw went down...it would be best to have Erceg ready to get called up and fill in and be better than Perez. I understand it's completely unrealistic to have a better guy at every spot. Perez will probably have to be the best backup option at SS and 2b at minimum...and possibly 3b. He'll probably be the 3rd best option at every other position besides pitcher.

There is an additional argument that Dubon will be ready to steal Perez job from him at some point this year...and Perez will be off the roster and completely replaced by Dubon to open 2020.


I don't quite buy that. Perez's positional flexibility has been a 75 on the 20-80 scale, IMO. I'd try to sign him to some king of extension (4 years, $12 million). He's not just a supersub for double switches, cover for an injury, etc. He lets the Crew keep 13 pitchers on their roster with that flexibility and serves as a 14th pitcher.


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Posted: January 25, 2019, 7:39 PM Post
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Yeah, he's pretty valuable. I mean obviously I'm biased, but then again I think you could argue that we don't have metrics for measuring his value. WAR probably punishes versatility in the sense that a guy like Perez is compared to 3B's and OF's for his innings there, and WAR certainly doesn't account for the value of roster flexibility. I don't think it even pretends to. If they measured the statistical significance of the double-switches and all that, I bet Hernan would be seen as a much more valuable guy.

As for his number of appearances, obviously we're all hoping everyone stays healthy and they can minimize his appearances, but they absolutely need him and therefore have to keep him sharp. I'm fine with how they used him last year.


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Posted: January 29, 2019, 3:15 PM Post
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Jon Heyman of Fancred reports that the Padres are considering free agent Mike Moustakas.

And Moustakas comes at the recommendation of his former teammate and current Padres first baseman Eric Hosmer. The Padres have emerged as a potential suitor for Manny Machado, but Moustakas will come cheaper and might also be more realistic. The 30-year-old was better defensively in 2018 while batting .251/.315/.459 with 28 homers and 95 RBI in 152 games between the Royals and Brewers. The Phillies and White Sox are among the clubs who have been linked to Moustakas in recent weeks. Of course, Machado is also a potential fit with those clubs.

Source: Jon Heyman on TwitterJan 29 - 11:17 AM


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Posted: February 08, 2019, 9:08 AM Post
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Rosenthal says that a reunion between the Brewers and Moose seems inevitable.

While Moose is limited as a hitter, he has great power, and might be able to put up 35-40 HRs playing half his games in Miller Park. It would be my hope, though, that he might be willing to sacrifice some of that power to get that average and OBP up a bit. If we could get a .260-.265 average, .315 OBP and 30 HRs out of him, that would make me very happy. This move would likely push Shaw to 2B against righties, and Spangenberg to San Antonio.


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Posted: February 08, 2019, 9:29 AM Post
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Don't care about Shaw at 2B and "too many LHB's" as I think those are not as much of a downside as some people suggest. This is the infielder solution I wanted all along, assuming he's much cheaper than Marwin Gonzalez. He's just better and/or younger than most of the other options that were available, and probably cheaper. As long as Shaw's okay with it, this would replace Perez/Spangenberg with Moose in the 7-hole. They still have too many 5-7 type hitters and not enough true top of the order guys, but that's a damn deep lineup if you think about it. Moose is also a great clubhouse fit, and I think chemistry is a small but important part of their success.


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Posted: February 08, 2019, 10:12 AM Post
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It really depends on cost, but I wouldn't hate this move. Yes we run into a problem if Hiura comes up and rakes in June/July, but our lineup will be ridiculously deep all season. We can even afford an infield injury without really skipping a beat.

I also want to add, I think the hope is that many of our AAA guys that have fallen out of favor have big years specifically for the goal of trading some of them away. Not Hiura, not Dubon...but maybe Brown, maybe Erceg, maybe Grisham. We seem relatively set at most positions for the forseeable future, even moreso if we sign Moustakas for something like 3/27. Any of those upper minors guys having a big season would probably make them trade bait.


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Posted: February 08, 2019, 10:21 AM Post
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coolhandluke121 said:
Don't care about Shaw at 2B and "too many LHB's" as I think those are not as much of a downside as some people suggest. This is the infielder solution I wanted all along, assuming he's much cheaper than Marwin Gonzalez. He's just better and/or younger than most of the other options that were available, and probably cheaper. As long as Shaw's okay with it, this would replace Perez/Spangenberg with Moose in the 7-hole. They still have too many 5-7 type hitters and not enough true top of the order guys, but that's a damn deep lineup if you think about it. Moose is also a great clubhouse fit, and I think chemistry is a small but important part of their success.


I'd say they were definitely a downside in the NLCS. We just didn't have the RH bats to match up well against the LH pitching that LA threw at us. A lot of that was Schoop not panning out. Braun and Aguilar are pretty iffy as to what we'll get in 2019, so hopefully adding Grandal will help quite a bit.

I'm not against Moose, it's just not my favorite option there comparing to Marwin. You'll still have to decide against any LHP which one you want to plug in for a bad matchup.


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Posted: February 08, 2019, 10:26 AM Post
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adambr2 said:

I'd say they were definitely a downside in the NLCS. We just didn't have the RH bats to match up well against the LH pitching that LA threw at us. A lot of that was Schoop not panning out. Braun and Aguilar are pretty iffy as to what we'll get in 2019, so hopefully adding Grandal will help quite a bit.

I'm not against Moose, it's just not my favorite option there comparing to Marwin. You'll still have to decide against any LHP which one you want to plug in for a bad matchup.


Well, I did say there wasn't as much downside as some people suggest. I know there is some, but I think the benefits far outweigh that. Matching up with the staffs of Chicago and LAD is thinking way too far ahead IMO. You have to get there in the first place, and more LHB's helps you do that because you will face far more RHP's throughout the year.

I also think there was a flukey quality to their struggles against LHP's. I see no reason they shouldn't be able to hit them well. And I'd take Marwin too, but I think he will get 2-3 times as many years and 3-4 times as much guaranteed money.


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Posted: February 08, 2019, 11:05 AM Post
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One thing this does is it makes the need for Huira to come up at any point during the season a moot point. Now if Keston continues to rake in AAA this may be a move that allows the Brewers to trade one of the first baseman at the deadline for any assets and then move Shaw to first base. This signing could also mean a trade of Keston for a big time pitcher as well, though I don't see that happening.


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Posted: February 08, 2019, 11:12 AM Post
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coolhandluke121 said:
adambr2 said:

I'd say they were definitely a downside in the NLCS. We just didn't have the RH bats to match up well against the LH pitching that LA threw at us. A lot of that was Schoop not panning out. Braun and Aguilar are pretty iffy as to what we'll get in 2019, so hopefully adding Grandal will help quite a bit.

I'm not against Moose, it's just not my favorite option there comparing to Marwin. You'll still have to decide against any LHP which one you want to plug in for a bad matchup.


Well, I did say there wasn't as much downside as some people suggest. I know there is some, but I think the benefits far outweigh that. Matching up with the staffs of Chicago and LAD is thinking way too far ahead IMO. You have to get there in the first place, and more LHB's helps you do that because you will face far more RHP's throughout the year.

I also think there was a flukey quality to their struggles against LHP's. I see no reason they shouldn't be able to hit them well. And I'd take Marwin too, but I think he will get 2-3 times as many years and 3-4 times as much guaranteed money.


I guess it depends on what Moose gets, but I think it's just as likely that he too(Marwin) overplayed his hand in the market a bit. He's a great fit here because he's versatile, but he is still a pretty mediocre offensive player.

I guess if Moose takes a 1 year 8 million dollar deal I'd agree with your figures, but at 29 with ST'ing coming up pretty quickly, I don't think he's getting a huge deal. Isn't Bregman injured to start the year? Or at least injured right now and likely to be limited during ST'ing?

I wonder what the chances are that he ends up back in Houston for another year and then comes back at 30 and tries it again.


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Posted: February 08, 2019, 11:22 AM Post
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If Moose only gets 1/$8m, I'm pretty confident Gonzalez gets 3/$30m or more. I wouldn't be surprised if he's holding out for a little too much, but look what Lowrie, Murphy, and LeMahieu got. Gonzalez has to have much better offers than that IMO. He's much younger and more versatile. He's not very consistent, but neither are the aforementioned 3. Murphy is the only consistent one of the bunch, but he's the oldest and was the worst of the 3 last year.


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Posted: February 08, 2019, 11:28 AM Post
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coolhandluke121 said:
adambr2 said:

I'd say they were definitely a downside in the NLCS. We just didn't have the RH bats to match up well against the LH pitching that LA threw at us. A lot of that was Schoop not panning out. Braun and Aguilar are pretty iffy as to what we'll get in 2019, so hopefully adding Grandal will help quite a bit.

I'm not against Moose, it's just not my favorite option there comparing to Marwin. You'll still have to decide against any LHP which one you want to plug in for a bad matchup.


Well, I did say there wasn't as much downside as some people suggest. I know there is some, but I think the benefits far outweigh that. Matching up with the staffs of Chicago and LAD is thinking way too far ahead IMO. You have to get there in the first place, and more LHB's helps you do that because you will face far more RHP's throughout the year.

I also think there was a flukey quality to their struggles against LHP's. I see no reason they shouldn't be able to hit them well. And I'd take Marwin too, but I think he will get 2-3 times as many years and 3-4 times as much guaranteed money.


LHP would definitely be a concern of mine if we get Moose...especially considering Grandal is much better against RHP...but Aguilar and Schoop were a big part of our struggles against LHP. I'm expecting Braun to have a better season, and Aguilar to at least be a bit better than his 2nd half version in the low 700s. Also factor in no more Schoop and Hiura/Dubon/Perez as options at least against LHP(Hiura everyday)...we should be better. All else fails, we find a RH version of Granderson at the deadline to solely mash lefties.


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Posted: February 08, 2019, 11:56 AM Post
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I don't think we are at the stage where we can assume playoffs and are looking at playoff matchups. So, if we can kill righties and righties are ~70?% of the starting pitching, I will take that.

If Hiura rakes, he can come up in June and get all the lefty starts for Shaw and Moose (Shaw slides over) and then be the main PH on the bench. He could probably get a few starts for Aguilar if they give him some reps at 1B down in the minors.

But I don't see Moose signing for $8M/1 YR. Even if it just because he would have to swallow he didn't take the one year $15M option a few months ago from us. If he doesn't get a decent deal and he and his agent misjudeged his value two years in a row.......


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Posted: February 08, 2019, 12:10 PM Post
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Roderick said:
I don't think we are at the stage where we can assume playoffs and are looking at playoff matchups. So, if we can kill righties and righties are ~70?% of the starting pitching, I will take that.

If Hiura rakes, he can come up in June and get all the lefty starts for Shaw and Moose (Shaw slides over) and then be the main PH on the bench. He could probably get a few starts for Aguilar if they give him some reps at 1B down in the minors.

But I don't see Moose signing for $8M/1 YR. Even if it just because he would have to swallow he didn't take the one year $15M option a few months ago from us. If he doesn't get a decent deal and he and his agent misjudeged his value two years in a row.......


Then he should fire his agent. Though I doubt the Brewers pick up their end of the option anyways. At some point, it becomes "do I want to play this year or not"? If the market just isn't there an 8 million is all he can get, then that's better than the alternative option of not playing. Sooner or later he's going to have to make that decision. There's always a chance that a loser in the Machado sweepstakes comes after him or that someone gets hurt in ST, but a LOT of teams have already filled their infield spots. He may very well have to take whatever he can get, even if it hurts his pride/ego a bit (like he did last year). But he 100% should fire his agent IMO.


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Posted: February 08, 2019, 12:41 PM Post
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Roderick said:
I don't think we are at the stage where we can assume playoffs and are looking at playoff matchups. So, if we can kill righties and righties are ~70?% of the starting pitching, I will take that.

If Hiura rakes, he can come up in June and get all the lefty starts for Shaw and Moose (Shaw slides over) and then be the main PH on the bench. He could probably get a few starts for Aguilar if they give him some reps at 1B down in the minors.

But I don't see Moose signing for $8M/1 YR. Even if it just because he would have to swallow he didn't take the one year $15M option a few months ago from us. If he doesn't get a decent deal and he and his agent misjudeged his value two years in a row.......


The option was mutual and I don't think the Brewers were ever going to exercise their end of it, which I think they probably quietly informed Moose's camp of. I don't think Moose turning it down was really anything more than a formality, whether of not he actually would have exercised his end with mutual interest.


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Posted: February 08, 2019, 1:40 PM Post
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Normally I would say that you just pick someone like Moose up at the deadline. However, the division should be so incredibly competitive that we would probably want him for the entire season. Also, Milwaukee sports fans need to have a player with the nickname Moose as we have had for a while now.


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Posted: February 08, 2019, 9:22 PM Post
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If they can add him do it never have enough bats or arms. I like to see them add either Moose Or Marvin and of course Dallas for the rotation


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Posted: February 10, 2019, 12:06 AM Post
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Is it 50-50 now? Flip a coin? Is the % he's back that high?

https://www.brewcrewball.com/2019/2/8/18217320/milwaukee-brewers-mike-moustakas-reunion-feels-inevitable-per-report


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Posted: February 10, 2019, 8:48 AM Post
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I can't imagine what they'll do with Thames if they bring back Moustakas. My guess is they'd eat $5 million and send him off to a rebuilding team who'd try and see if they can flip him in July.


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Posted: February 10, 2019, 11:02 AM Post
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Sounds like the Brewers and the Padres are the only teams currently interested. I expect that maybe one or two more will jump in after Machado signs. I predicted Moustakas to Philadelphia figuring they would miss out on Harper and Machado and then would hit the lower tiers of free agency pretty hard. Moustakas seems like a good fit there as Franco's significant OBP problems continue.

The market seems so slow on Moustakas that I would be surprised if he got any multi-year offers and wouldn't rule out that his deal would be less than the last one (5.5 million plus 1 more million as a mutual option). If it ends up in the 4-5 million area, then he really should be on the table for any team that could use third base help because that price-tag shouldn't scare off rebuilding or small market teams.

There are many teams that could probably use some help at 3B.
-Angels currently have Zach Cozart at 3B and David Fletcher at 2B. Cozart could go back to 2B where his glove would likely have more of an impact and Fletcher goes to utility infielder which is what he was projected as.
-Toronto probably starts the year with Brandon Drury at 3B. Moustakas is a huge upgrade over Drury and (1) good bridge to get them to Guerrero (2) trade bait when Guerrero gets to the majors.
-Would be a cheap enough investment for the Royals to generate some fan interest as I think he was a favorite there.
-White Sox have Yolmer Sanchez at 3B and he's a lifetime .242/.293/.368/.661 hitter.
And that's just a start, definitely a few more teams that could use help at 3B.

And Steamer projects Moustakas as a 2.7 WAR player next year so it's surprising there isn't at least a half dozen teams after him. Should be noted that Boras is his agent and may still be running around throwing out a 3 year, 45 million dollar demand...that would explain a lack of interest from most clubs.


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