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Offline  Big Game James
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Posted: February 07, 2019, 11:51 AM Post
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The Brewers are a pitcher short and a guy that can go six innings is the answer. This would allow Nelson and Davies to rehab slowly and build arm strength. Peralta could go to AAA and stay fresh for a call up. Anderson and Woodruff are both question marks in the rotation (personally, I like Woodruff in the pen). How great would it be to have three arms in the minors that could me ready to go.

James Shield: 1 year, 1 million with a games started and incentive laden contract.

Rotation: Chacin, Anderson, Burnes, Shields, Woodruff


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Posted: February 07, 2019, 1:10 PM Post
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would not mind that


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Posted: February 07, 2019, 1:31 PM Post
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Hard to let a guy go 6 innings when he is getting shelled...


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Posted: February 07, 2019, 1:50 PM Post
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I really hope that Nelson isn't still rehabbing at this point. It sounds like he'll be ready to go for ST'ing last I heard(though it makes sense to play it safe with him).

As for Shields...sure. I'd rather it be a Minor league deal though. I'd really prefer it be Gio than anyone...though I haven't been paying attention the last 4-5 days...he could have signed with someone.


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Posted: February 07, 2019, 1:55 PM Post
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On a minor league deal with a May or June opt-out? Sure, why not? Really nothing to lose with something like that. With his past success and durability, he'd be a fun one to take a chance on, similar to Gallardo last year. If it doesn't work out, there's really no harm.


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Posted: February 07, 2019, 7:25 PM Post
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YES no harm no foul with doing that type of deal.


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Posted: February 07, 2019, 8:02 PM Post
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I'm not sure what the most eye-catching number is during his recent history? Maybe the 101 home runs he's allowed during the last three seasons.


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Posted: February 08, 2019, 11:19 AM Post
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JosephC said:
I'm not sure what the most eye-catching number is during his recent history? Maybe the 101 home runs he's allowed during the last three seasons.


Yeah, that's the point of the Minor League deal. Miley was coming off a 1.7+ whip and over 5BB per 9. The whole point of bringing in veteran depth...particularly with pitchers how have had previous success...is to see if you can get lucky and get a solid season out of them.

You're not gonna find starting pitchers with pretty peripherals available for minor league deals Feburary 8th.


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Posted: February 08, 2019, 8:53 PM Post
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I like the idea of adding him on minor league deal. You can make a pretty good case that someone going 7 innings every 5 days, especially early in the season, would greatly benefit the bullpen over the length of the season. If Nelson or someone needs time to rehab, or they want to keep innings total down for young starters, Shields could take some starts and it would be minimal impact on team if he doesn't work out.


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Posted: February 08, 2019, 9:24 PM Post
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I think this would be a nice move


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Posted: February 08, 2019, 10:55 PM Post
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I think he might be good on the Suter Diet if he watched his innings and had Claudio coming in after him.
He may get stronger and do well in a league (for now) that doesn't have the DH.

Very interesting notes:
in Wins 7 0 with a 2.36 ERA
in Losses 0 16 with a 6.8 ERA

Also OPS by inning
1st inning .841
2nd inning .650
3rd inning .782
4th inning .632
5th inning .691

but left in too long...

6th inning .829
7th inning .872
8th inning 2.500


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Posted: February 09, 2019, 8:13 AM Post
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I've been on Shields as a good value for some time. He was tied for third in the AL in IP. Part of the reason for that is because as the lone veteran starter on the Sox, which also had a weak pen, they needed him to go 7 innings every time out. That being said, on a better team he's still a solid bet to give you 6 innings most every start and log 180 innings, something the Brewers could use. Shields has always been prone to allowing the long ball, but Guaranteed Rate Field is just as much a launching pad as Miller Park and going from AL to NL should help.

What's not seen in the numbers is that Shields has a reputation as a great influence on young pitchers and with a new pitching coach it might be a benefit to have a mentor on the staff.


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Posted: February 09, 2019, 10:04 AM Post
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Pass on Shields. We don't need a back of the rotation guy. If you sign Shields, you're giving him a job. He'll soak up 30 starts and (with luck) keep the ERA in a 4.50 range. But we don't need that kind of pitcher at this time. Nothing against him, but he's a better fit for other teams.


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Posted: February 09, 2019, 10:21 AM Post
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The curse of Wade Miley is that he can now be used to justify signing every horrible pitcher in the league [laughing]


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Posted: February 09, 2019, 5:22 PM Post
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The curse of Wade Miley is that he can now be used to justify signing every horrible pitcher in the league [laughing]


Reading these boards, this is exactly true.

Every re-tread, used up pticher mentioned is always at some point the next Wade Miley, or the possibility of being the next Wade Miley.

We got pretty damn lucky with our version of Wade Miley last season. Some of need to realize this, and stop thinking every has been is the next Wade freakig Miley...


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Posted: February 09, 2019, 5:40 PM Post
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I totally agree her the brewers at some point need to more for a quality starter down the line.


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Posted: February 09, 2019, 6:03 PM Post
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SRB said:
The curse of Wade Miley is that he can now be used to justify signing every horrible pitcher in the league [laughing]


Reading these boards, this is exactly true.

Every re-tread, used up pticher mentioned is always at some point the next Wade Miley, or the possibility of being the next Wade Miley.

We got pretty damn lucky with our version of Wade Miley last season. Some of need to realize this, and stop thinking every has been is the next Wade freakig Miley...


I don't think anyone is saying that ... at least it doesn't seem that way. I don't think there is any harm in trying, especially with what little risk is involved.


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Posted: February 09, 2019, 7:59 PM Post
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SRB said:
The curse of Wade Miley is that he can now be used to justify signing every horrible pitcher in the league [laughing]

But will the "Miley" comp have the staying power of the "Suppan" comp? Asking the important questions.

Stearns Brewing Co.: Sustainability from farm to plate


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Posted: February 10, 2019, 10:59 PM Post
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The needle in a haystack transactions are fine during a rebuild and if you want to see if a guy has untapped potential. But the Brewers are going all out to win in 2019 and James Shields should be far away from them.

He's thrown a ton of innings, gives up a ton of homers, and was only in baseball the past couple of years because of his contract.

Pass every time.


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Posted: February 11, 2019, 7:04 AM Post
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I vividly remember all the consternation last year when the Brewers signed Gallardo and Miley, because I was one of the posters leading the charge. I hated the Miley move at the time ... and in the end I was dead wrong. I liked the Gallardo move, and was wrong there, to. Yes, it is very possible that all these guys end up like Gallardo on the scrap heap at the end of Spring Training, but there is no harm in signing a few guys that have had MLB success in the past that may be able to be unlocked again. Shields has milage on his arm, but he's been a great pitcher in the past, and if the risk isn't great, where is the harm in seeing if there is something there he can recapture?


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