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Posted: July 31, 2019, 4:15 AM Post
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wntrtxn21 said:
Brew crew 92 said:
If possible, I try to trade for Edwin Diaz. Could be the perfect storm, disastrous year, fans booing, GM that probably should go back to being an agent, that might sell low if he can get a package he likes just enough to rid him of people reminding him of how stupid his trade with Dipoto was.

Diaz > Supak & Ray & D Williams & Bello

Then I trade for Jake Diekman.

Diekman > T Williams & Barnes

Bullpen:

Houser Peralta Nelson Diekman Guerra Jeffress Hader Diaz


The Royals won't take two bums like Barnes and Williams for Diekman. They would get a better pkg. from any other team interested in Diekman. Diaz is nowhere near the pitcher he was last year. More hits than IPs - 21 ERs in only 38 IPs - 1.6 HRs/9. 3+ BBs/9. Right now I wouldn't give up Williams for him, much less the whole pkg..


You wouldn't give up Taylor Williams for Edwin Diaz? You're kidding, right?

Diaz has been really, really unlucky. If you look a little beyond ERA and hits, all signs point to him still having dominant reliever stuff. He'll be fine. He might have lost a little value since the Mets dealt for him, but not THAT much.


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Posted: July 31, 2019, 8:03 AM Post
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It sounds as though the Pirates Felipe Vázquez is likely to be on the move today.


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Posted: July 31, 2019, 8:06 AM Post
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It sounds as though the Pirates Felipe Vázquez is likely to be on the move today.


He would be a huge get for the Brewers. I shudder when considering the acquisition cost, though.


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Posted: July 31, 2019, 11:07 AM Post
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Mark Feinsand of MLB.com reports that Daniel Hudson is "drawing plenty of interest" and it's "more likely than not" he gets traded.

The Twins and Red Sox are two clubs known to have interest in Hudson. The veteran reliever has had a nice season in Toronto with a 3.00 ERA and 48/23 K/BB ratio across 48 innings of work. He doesn't figure to cost much in a trade.

Source: Mark Feinsand on Twitter
Jul 31, 2019, 12:59 PM ET


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Posted: July 31, 2019, 11:25 AM Post
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I wonder if its worth rolling the dice on Ken Giles - he's have a great year. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/07/ ... talks.html

With his elbow inflammation, maybe we can get him on a discount. Worse case scenario, he is limited this year, but useful next year.


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Posted: July 31, 2019, 12:08 PM Post
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#Brewers, #Nationals, and #Braves are the teams most aggressively targeting #WhiteSox Alex Colome, sources say.


Colome has good superficial numbers, but the peripherals are somewhat concerning. Still, a solid late inning pen arm who is under control next year. I assume cost would be pretty high though.


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Posted: July 31, 2019, 12:09 PM Post
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#Brewers, #Nationals, and #Braves are the teams most aggressively targeting #WhiteSox Alex Colome, sources say.


Colome has good superficial numbers, but the peripherals are somewhat concerning. Still, a solid late inning pen arm who is under control next year. I assume cost would be pretty high though.

That would fill our White Sox quota for the year too. Book it.


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Posted: July 31, 2019, 12:11 PM Post
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Mark Feinsand of MLB.com reports that Daniel Hudson is "drawing plenty of interest" and it's "more likely than not" he gets traded.

The Twins and Red Sox are two clubs known to have interest in Hudson. The veteran reliever has had a nice season in Toronto with a 3.00 ERA and 48/23 K/BB ratio across 48 innings of work. He doesn't figure to cost much in a trade.

Source: Mark Feinsand on Twitter
Jul 31, 2019, 12:59 PM ET


Hudson off the board.. Has been dealt to the Washington Nationals
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/07/ ... udson.html


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Posted: July 31, 2019, 12:14 PM Post
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Nationals also land the LHRP Roenis Elias from Seattle...

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/07/ ... elias.html


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Posted: July 31, 2019, 12:18 PM Post
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#Brewers and #SFGiants in agreement on significant trade, sources tell The Athletic. Mauricio Dubon to San Francisco.


For Smith?


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Posted: July 31, 2019, 12:26 PM Post
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MLB Network saying Drew Pomeranz


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Posted: July 31, 2019, 12:40 PM Post
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Nationals shop in Seattle some more..
This time landing Hunter Strickland..

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/07/ ... kland.html


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Posted: July 31, 2019, 12:48 PM Post
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Should've just decided to sell.

#3 prospect in an already weak system for a rental pen arm lol. lol. lol.


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Posted: July 31, 2019, 12:54 PM Post
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Should've just decided to sell.

#3 prospect in an already weak system for a rental pen arm lol. lol. lol.


Deal was for Pomeranz and Ray Black, not just Pomeranz lol. lol. lol.


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Posted: July 31, 2019, 12:59 PM Post
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Joey Meyer Bombs said:
schmidtac20 said:
Should've just decided to sell.

#3 prospect in an already weak system for a rental pen arm lol. lol. lol.


Deal was for Pomeranz and Ray Black, not just Pomeranz lol. lol. lol.


Yeah that makes the trade so much better. Rather than replenishing the farm system with Moose/Grandal returns


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Posted: July 31, 2019, 1:02 PM Post
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Joey Meyer Bombs said:
schmidtac20 said:
Should've just decided to sell.

#3 prospect in an already weak system for a rental pen arm lol. lol. lol.


Deal was for Pomeranz and Ray Black, not just Pomeranz lol. lol. lol.


Yeah that makes the trade so much better. Rather than replenishing the farm system with Moose/Grandal returns


Still an hour left ... those moves could still happen. None of the moves made are "all in" moves.


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Posted: July 31, 2019, 1:06 PM Post
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Agreed Joey. They could still move a few guys on one year deals. These moves help the bullpen now, but also in the future since some of the guys have multiple years of control. Nothing wrong with getting controllable bullpen pieces and making other moves toward the future by getting prospects back by moving a couple guys.


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Posted: July 31, 2019, 1:09 PM Post
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Yeah that makes the trade so much better. Rather than replenishing the farm system with Moose/Grandal returns[/quote]

Still an hour left ... those moves could still happen. None of the moves made are "all in" moves.[/quote][/quote]


These move so far feel like they meet 2 objectives. Fill out our pitching roster in response to all the injuries suffered and to create depth going into next season. These aren’t the all in lets go for it in 2019. Saying that, it matches the results on the field so far. Tough spot to be in for the decision makers. Still time to add a quantity starter or closer, but do we have assets to give up and make it fit.


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Posted: July 31, 2019, 1:09 PM Post
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Braves close to acquiring Shane Greene. I hope Detroit holds them over a barrel on the asking price. So sick of hearing about the Braves vaunted young pitching, then see them steal, beg and pillage for any arm they can get.


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Posted: July 31, 2019, 1:27 PM Post
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Buster Olney (ESPN) reporting deal done pending physical review - Shane Greene to Atlanta..


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