What the Brewers and Hader settled in arb this season, was not the kind of increase you would typically assume Hader at Super 2 would have received. I'd have expected in year 2 he'd have an 8.5-9.25mil price tag. What he argued for last season is where he is at now for this season. So when it comes his cost, I think he's returned near a normal 3 years of arbitration. Taking in to account a guy like Andrew Miller got a QO and was signed shows Hader should have at least a rd 1a type of prospect in his return value or not. That is something one has to believe the trade simulators never take in to account. Via last season that's around 2.5mil in draft capitol or something to add in to the trade simulator. And that doesn't take in to account what the next CBA worked out makes for that loss to FA. Do we return to what it was previously and take over another team's 1st rd draft pick? Say that is what the cost is from one of the big market clubs while say for Pirates it would cost their 2nd pick(balance or 2nd rd depending if that exists) TBH, being a homer, the move STL just made to take on Arrenado's contract should exclude them from any kind of competitive balance chances the entirety of his contract. I'd say that any FA contract signed by a competitive balance receiving team that would have any seasons where at the time of signing is a higher amount than what the current QO amount is removes them from competitive balance receiving. draft or international signings for the seasons as stated above that amount. Signing a player that is already on your team to such an amount wouldn't cost the competitive balance since it's a player already on your team. To be honest, I don't know how many other teams this would even affect beside the Cardinals as balance is not what MLB is giving them, it's an advantage.

Back on Hader I think he moved from 8.5/11.75/15.5 in arb to now the 6.675/9.5/12.4 range. So that saves nearly 7.5mil from what a team last offseason was looking to take on. And at the highest 12.4 is cheap when taking the next Aroldis Chapman or FA value.

No because why acquire Hader and lose two better everyday players for a questionable-defenseless Hiura?

I thought about the twins after getting Wong as a landing spot for Hiura. But the Twins signed Andrelton Simmons, and will move former SS Jorge Polanco to 2b. Also signed Nelson Cruz so he'll become DH. Hiura wouldn't be needed.

Arraez was suggested as the utility. So there is maybe a potential to find a Hader Trade with Min to acquire him. With Arreaz though you're looking at a BABIP, low SO hitter with nearly no HR power. Suggesting playing 3b. He may also be a LH platoon bat. Sample size too small. Stats show him well vs LH starters but otherwise closer to 200pt spread. Statcast gave him a similar hitter profile to the Mets Mcneil so there is that. But he's a slow runner and not a base stealer. Odd for somebody who is a BABIP hitter. So good is atop the order BA-OB but bad is not a speedster or power threat. He'll be standing on 1b ripe for a DP victim with a DP bat profile right before then. #6 hitter seems more appropriate.
Kirriloff is the 1b we dream of having but I know a brewerfan with MN locality has said he's untouchable and taking reps for OF in Minnesota. Cruz pushes him back 1yr from Sano batting DH and leaving 1b his job. If we're sticking with Hiura, Rooker becomes redundant for 1b. Works beautifully if DH happens 2022.

Can you pull off a Hader for Larnoch and Arreaz deal? Are you okay after this season with Urias and Arreaz. Ss/3b combining for less than 12HRs a season? Do you get a 3rd player back in trade? I'm certain you'd like a Pitching lotto or RP future when trading Hader. A Brewer spin rate guy would be Dakota Chalmers. I liked him that year I rated my draft but he seems to have gotten off to a shaky and TJ beginning who by now has seen his window pass as SP. Shrugs