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Posted: December 19, 2019, 10:10 AM Post
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Now with Smoak aboard, do they go with Smoak mostly vs. righties and Braun vs. lefties at 1B, Hiura backed up by Arcia and Sogard at 2B. Either Urias or Arcia at SS, and Healy/Sogard to cover 3rd at least until July when they see if they can upgrade there?

There seems to be more than enough depth in the OF and at catcher too. Heck Braun may only start 4 games a week, twice in the OF and twice at 1B. That should keep him healthy and they have ability to keep Yelich's back from acting up too with off days on occasion and Cain fresh by using Gamel in CF once or twice a week.

Seems to me Stearns still needs to add at least one and possibly two relievers plus a couple more NRI guys. My guess is he doesn't make any big splash for a starting pitcher preferring to see what the market is in July. He's likely hoping a guy like Burns can re-establish value between the start of the season and July.


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Posted: December 19, 2019, 10:17 AM Post
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I predict there's going to be at least one more surprise in store, likely at 3B. The nice thing is that they have enough players in the fold to put a competent team on the field.

He's at the point now where nearly every hole is filled, so he can value shop and strike if a big deal shows up.


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Posted: December 19, 2019, 10:18 AM Post
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I think they are set on their bench and at all starting positions besides 3B. I think 3B is still a pretty glaring hole, though. I'm not confident enough to try to say they are or aren't done making moves, but I do hope the plan going into the season is not some combination of Sogard and Healy at 3rd.


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Posted: December 19, 2019, 10:23 AM Post
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It makes sense for Stearns to trade Arcia, his OBP is really bad.


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Posted: December 19, 2019, 10:23 AM Post
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I hope they're not going in with the current roster at 3B. That's really the only spot left. I'd like to think they add another more proven or reliable bat there somehow. There seems to be some money available to do it, while also staying a good amount below last year's payroll. To either help make a profit and/or leave flex for in season moves if needed.

I count 11 players almost for sure on MLB roster as position players. So still 2 spots available. Hopefully one of them can be a better 3B (otherwise it's probably Healy's spot) and then the other for Gamel and/or a rotating spot based on who's banged up.

2 Catchers
IF: Smoak, Keston, Arcia, Urias, Sogard
OF: Braun, Yeli, Cain, Garcia

Which made me realize I think forcing 13 position players doesn't make sense. Seems there isn't enough starts to go around, especially for an AL team that doesn't need to sub. I think with the current way pitching is used it would help every team out to be able to keep one more P up. Basically, let it be a choice, something like 26 man roster, minimum of 12 on each side. Flex on the other 2. Note, sorry if I misinterpret the rule but my current understanding is it's a rule on 13 and 13.


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Posted: December 19, 2019, 10:31 AM Post
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I can't see Stearns giving Donaldson 4 yrs for 100 million which is what he will probably cost and I don't blame him. Other than that I just don't see what else we can do at the position that would get us excited. I can accept Seager if Seattle kicks in a lot of money and we don't give up anything useful but I wouldn't be excited by it.


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Posted: December 19, 2019, 10:34 AM Post
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JohnBriggs12 said:
Now with Smoak aboard, do they go with Smoak mostly vs. righties and Braun vs. lefties at 1B, Hiura backed up by Arcia and Sogard at 2B. Either Urias or Arcia at SS, and Healy/Sogard to cover 3rd at least until July when they see if they can upgrade there?

There seems to be more than enough depth in the OF and at catcher too. Heck Braun may only start 4 games a week, twice in the OF and twice at 1B. That should keep him healthy and they have ability to keep Yelich's back from acting up too with off days on occasion and Cain fresh by using Gamel in CF once or twice a week.

Seems to me Stearns still needs to add at least one and possibly two relievers plus a couple more NRI guys. My guess is he doesn't make any big splash for a starting pitcher preferring to see what the market is in July. He's likely hoping a guy like Burns can re-establish value between the start of the season and July.


Smoak made $8M for a very, very mediocre year. I hope Stearns didn't go crazy like the Sogard contract and get Smoak for even 1/2 that amount. I can't see Healy and Sogard ever being the full time options at 3B. Spending money on Healy, Sogard, and Smoak just takes the money away from what he needs the most. Starting pitching and a thrdbaseman. It's still early, but the more Stearns piddles away money the less he has to actually sign a difference maker for 2020.


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Posted: December 19, 2019, 10:38 AM Post
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I'd guess we see a 3b option, at least a platoon guy, with an still decent shot of a medium to big money guy, either in trade or FA. Could still see Todd Frazier at third in addition to the other names mentioned. Cabrera I guess is also an option?


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Posted: December 19, 2019, 10:39 AM Post
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Never say never but I'd be floored if their primary 3B for 2020 is on the roster right now.


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Posted: December 19, 2019, 10:40 AM Post
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wntrtxn21 said:
JohnBriggs12 said:
Now with Smoak aboard, do they go with Smoak mostly vs. righties and Braun vs. lefties at 1B, Hiura backed up by Arcia and Sogard at 2B. Either Urias or Arcia at SS, and Healy/Sogard to cover 3rd at least until July when they see if they can upgrade there?

There seems to be more than enough depth in the OF and at catcher too. Heck Braun may only start 4 games a week, twice in the OF and twice at 1B. That should keep him healthy and they have ability to keep Yelich's back from acting up too with off days on occasion and Cain fresh by using Gamel in CF once or twice a week.

Seems to me Stearns still needs to add at least one and possibly two relievers plus a couple more NRI guys. My guess is he doesn't make any big splash for a starting pitcher preferring to see what the market is in July. He's likely hoping a guy like Burns can re-establish value between the start of the season and July.


Smoak made $8M for a very, very mediocre year. I hope Stearns didn't go crazy like the Sogard contract and get Smoak for even 1/2 that amount. I can't see Healy and Sogard ever being the full time options at 3B. Spending money on Healy, Sogard, and Smoak just takes the money away from what he needs the most. Starting pitching and a thrdbaseman. It's still early, but the more Stearns piddles away money the less he has to actually sign a difference maker for 2020.


The only "difference maker" available is Donaldson. And we're not give 4/100ish and that's just not going to happen. These signings should have no impact on the remaining guys they realistically could acquire at 3B.


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Posted: December 19, 2019, 10:41 AM Post
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Right now, it appears as though we have 13 pitchers and 13 offensive players on the 26 man roster.

If we grab a 3B somehow, who gets the ax from the 26 man roster?

My guess is that Healy goes to AAA, where he should be anyway.

https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resour ... ts/brewers


Last edited by turborickey on December 19, 2019, 10:46 AM, edited 1 time in total.

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Posted: December 19, 2019, 10:45 AM Post
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turborickey said:
Right now, it appears as though we have 13 pitchers and 13 offensive players on the 26 man roster.

If we grab a 3B somehow, who gets the ax from the 26 man roster?

https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resour ... ts/brewers


Healy. Does he not have options or something that makes it for sure that he's on the roster?


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Posted: December 19, 2019, 10:45 AM Post
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turborickey said:
Right now, it appears as though we have 13 pitchers and 13 offensive players on the 26 man roster.

If we grab a 3B somehow, who gets the ax from the 26 man roster?

https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resour ... ts/brewers


Healy goes to AAA, or Arcia is dealt. Maybe both.


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Posted: December 19, 2019, 10:46 AM Post
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turborickey said:
Right now, it appears as though we have 13 pitchers and 13 offensive players on the 26 man roster.

If we grab a 3B somehow, who gets the ax from the 26 man roster?

https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resour ... ts/brewers


Arcia or Healy. Arcia could easily get traded for a reliever


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Posted: December 19, 2019, 10:48 AM Post
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Joey Meyer Bombs said:
turborickey said:
Right now, it appears as though we have 13 pitchers and 13 offensive players on the 26 man roster.

If we grab a 3B somehow, who gets the ax from the 26 man roster?

https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resour ... ts/brewers


Healy goes to AAA, or Arcia is dealt. Maybe both.


yup, it is appearing more and more like Arcia is a goner.

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Posted: December 19, 2019, 10:59 AM Post
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I won't be surprised in the least if the Brewers make a play on a 3B that no one expects. Something like Matt Chapman, Carlos Correa or Corey Seager (and yes I know the last two are SS). Not sure it makes sense for the Brewers to trade what is necessary for those guys but I am anticipating something surprising like that.


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Posted: December 19, 2019, 11:00 AM Post
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turborickey said:
Joey Meyer Bombs said:
turborickey said:
Right now, it appears as though we have 13 pitchers and 13 offensive players on the 26 man roster.

If we grab a 3B somehow, who gets the ax from the 26 man roster?

https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resour ... ts/brewers


Healy goes to AAA, or Arcia is dealt. Maybe both.


yup, it is appearing more and more like Arcia is a goner.


Stearns said today he expects Urias to play SS (went on to say he could play 3B and probably 2B as well) so you might be right.

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Posted: December 19, 2019, 11:14 AM Post
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Hmmm... this could be an interesting deal with the Mariners:
https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/trades/trade-19159/

Brewers get:
3B Seager
LHP Sheffield

Mariners get:
SS Arcia

26-man breaks down like this:

ss: Urias
2b: Hiura
lf: Yelich
rf: Garcia
c: Narvaez
1b: Smoak
3b: Seager
cf: Cain
pitcher
bench: Pina, Braun (1B/3B/LF/RF), Sogard (SS/2B), Healy (3B/1B), Gamel (OF)
rotation: Woodruff, Lindholm, B. Anderson, Houser, Lauer
bullpen: Knebel, Hader, Suter, Peralta, Sheffield, Claudio, Yardley, Faria


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Posted: December 19, 2019, 11:28 AM Post
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Say the Nats or a similar team strike out on Donaldson.

Why wouldn't they just say, "no, Mariners, we'll just take Seager. If the Brewers want Justus Sheffield thrown in, we don't need him if that's what wins us the trade from you."

The way the market is going I don't think the Mariners are going to have to toss in a prospect to get a team to take most of Seager's money.


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Posted: December 19, 2019, 11:50 AM Post
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One note on Seager, when traded the option becomes a player option. He'll be owed 3/52. That's a lot of money for a very mediocre player. I frankly don't really want the Brewers involved in that. I don't think Donaldson is realistic but maybe Cabrera for 3b? It's a bit shocking how thin the FA market becomes beyond Cabrera. Guys like Frazier, Franco, Castro, Gyorko...a whole bunch of yuck that probably should be getting minor league deals.


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