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Posted: December 10, 2020, 11:10 AM Post
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I highly doubt we will be paying even $10 million for a guy like Semien.

I so wish we didn't have to deal with Garcia's salary this year...

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Posted: December 10, 2020, 11:13 AM Post
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I highly doubt we will be paying even $10 million for a guy like Semien.


We all have our own opinions on what may or may not be possible, but it's impossible for any of us to know for sure. I'm hopeful that they can find $10 for a potential needle-mover like him despite the current circumstances, but who knows....


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Posted: December 10, 2020, 11:18 AM Post
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I could see them dumping $8-10M into a player if they get one-year deals. If it is multiple years, I think they go the journeymen approach again.

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Posted: December 10, 2020, 12:15 PM Post
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I’m not sure what people were expecting when Vogelbach was resigned. More than likely, he’s the guy.


I refused to believe that's the case, even though that's probably the case.

I also refuse to believe that is the case and it is highly likely Vogelbach is not the guy. Find it hard to believe anybody thinks Stearns would hand the starting first base job to Vogelbach.


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Posted: December 10, 2020, 12:52 PM Post

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I do not want Dan Vogelbach on the team. He was fine to grab mid pandemic season after letting Smoak go, but to actually start a season thinking this guy is going to get any sort of meaningful playing time is inexcusable.


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Posted: December 10, 2020, 1:04 PM Post
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I do not want Dan Vogelbach on the team. He was fine to grab mid pandemic season after letting Smoak go, but to actually start a season thinking this guy is going to get any sort of meaningful playing time is inexcusable.


Had he continued the trajectory he was in when the Blue Jays DFA'd him, I'd agree with you wholeheartedly. But he was pretty much the exact opposite of what was advertised. Granted, it was a small sample, but I don't see much harm in at least bringing him to Spring Training to see if he is anything close to the player he looked like in that short sample. I get that chances are he's not, but there is little risk here IMO.

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Posted: December 10, 2020, 1:39 PM Post
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I get some of the concerns about Vogelbach, but I'm feeling more optimistic about him. However, if he's an absolute disaster in ST, they can let him go and it'll cost just under $250K -- not chump change, but a relatively low-risk gamble -- and other options will surely be available.


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Posted: December 10, 2020, 2:27 PM Post
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JackNicholson1974 said:
I do not want Dan Vogelbach on the team. He was fine to grab mid pandemic season after letting Smoak go, but to actually start a season thinking this guy is going to get any sort of meaningful playing time is inexcusable.


Couldn't you say the same thing about Justin Smoak, Eric Sogard, Brock Holt, etc.?

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Posted: December 10, 2020, 2:53 PM Post
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If Vogelbach is the player we saw, I think I would be ok with a Vogelbach/Cron platoon... I realize that means Vogelbach would get most of the starts since he's a LHH.


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Posted: December 10, 2020, 3:13 PM Post
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I just can’t get excited about a platoon between Vogelbach and any old fart past his prime veteran but I guess that’s probably where we’re heading.


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Posted: December 10, 2020, 3:14 PM Post
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Cron is actually pretty good. I don't really want Vogelbach playing 1B at all, but Cron is a good option there.


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Posted: December 10, 2020, 6:04 PM Post
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Cron is actually pretty good. I don't really want Vogelbach playing 1B at all, but Cron is a good option there.

After watching Cron in his year in MN, I think he'd be a pretty *meh* signing at best. Decent power but, overall, nothing great. . . . Of course that's several steps up from Smoak, which isn't saying much in Cron's favor.

I think there's more merit to finding some prospect-type who's blocked (a la the Houston young corner IF mentioned in that thread).


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Posted: December 10, 2020, 7:47 PM Post
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I don't see this team making any type of big moves this offseason back to looking for reclamation guys again.


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Posted: December 15, 2020, 8:53 AM Post
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I guess Seimen's market is progressing... Maybe we are of the teams that asked him to move to 3B.

I think I would be ok with him over there.


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Posted: December 15, 2020, 9:19 AM Post
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I guess Seimen's market is progressing... Maybe we are of the teams that asked him to move to 3B.

I think I would be ok with him over there.


From what I saw he is estimated to get 2/$30M or 3/$44M. If that's the case, he is far to expensive for the Brewers situation. Plus you have to ask if 2019 was the real Semien or just an anomaly. Before 2019 Semien wasn't anywhere near his 2019 numbers. He was a .245ish/.312 hitter.


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Posted: December 15, 2020, 11:39 AM Post
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How about Dustin Peterson? Looks like we have signed him as he is on his way to the US for a physical. Former 2nd rounder from the Padres.


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Posted: December 15, 2020, 11:48 AM Post
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I don't know if Semien would be a good add or not, seems more like a one year wonder kind of player. What I do know is, if the Brewers don't have $10+ million per year to sink into a free agent player they are bound to have a bunch of one-year band-aids again in 2021.

James McCann just got $40 million across 4 years. Let that sink in for a moment, from ages 24 through 28 he put up a .653 OPS. Any team could get a catcher with a career .653 OPS on a minor league deal with an invite to camp. Its the .808 OPS in 149 games (across two seasons) with the Sox that he's now got a multi-year deal averaging $10 million a season. If $10 million dollars is the going rate for free agents who will be starters but not cornerstone players, we might end up seeing Sogard Part III in 2021


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Posted: December 15, 2020, 11:51 AM Post
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How about Dustin Peterson? Looks like we have signed him as he is on his way to the US for a physical. Former 2nd rounder from the Padres.


It appears that, so far at least, the method Stearns has employed this offseason has been to go after former top prospect-types who have a skill set they are looking for, but for one reason or another have not been able to stick at the MLB level long term. Not super exciting, but probably more upside than what they did last year, targeting a bunch of arguably over-the-hill vets to fill out the roster. Of course, these veteran minor league signings could simply be to fill out the depth in Nashville too.

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Posted: December 15, 2020, 12:20 PM Post
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It appears that, so far at least, the method Stearns has employed this offseason has been to go after former top prospect-types who have a skill set they are looking for, but for one reason or another have not been able to stick at the MLB level long term. Not super exciting, but probably more upside than what they did last year, targeting a bunch of arguably over-the-hill vets to fill out the roster. Of course, these veteran minor league signings could simply be to fill out the depth in Nashville too.

In a vacuum I significantly prefer the approach where they look for talented players that haven't fully clicked but are at least still around their mid-20s (25-27) over signing guys that have seen a slight bit more MLB success but are either approaching or on the wrong side of 30.

Most of them obviously won't work out, but there is seemingly a higher upside to if you do end up with a success story or two.


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Posted: December 15, 2020, 1:16 PM Post
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Wow, so Zach Green and Dustin Peterson... Damn we are set then.

Come on Stearns, get us some real help.


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