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Posted: February 01, 2021, 11:07 AM Post
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Posted: February 01, 2021, 11:35 AM Post
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I would check in with James Paxton, he would be my priority.

Agreed, Paxton makes a lot of sense if the cost isn’t substantial.


Can't imagine Paxton will be cheap considering how recently he was seen as an emerging ace. But agreed that if he is willing to do a 1-year contract to prove himself after a 6.64 ERA and injury last season (5 GS), we should be all over that.


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Posted: February 02, 2021, 9:58 PM Post
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This would be a fantastic lineup. Could fill things out by bringing in a cheap righty masher for the bench like Matt Joyce.

2017-2020 vs RHP

CF Lorenzo Cain - .327 wOBA, 102 wRC+
LF Christian Yelich - .400 wOBA, 151 wRC+
2B Keston Hiura - .373 wOBA, 131 wRC+
3B Justin Turner - .369 wOBA, 133 wRC+
1B Daniel Vogelbach - .347 wOBA, 120 wRC+
RF Avisail Garcia - .324 wOBA, 104 wRC+
C Omar Narvaez - .339 wOBA, 114 wRC+
SS Orlando Arcia - .286 wOBA, 73 wRC+

2017-2020 vs LHP

CF Lorenzo Cain - .363 wOBA, 126 wRC+
LF Christian Yelich - .381 wOBA, 138 wRC+
3B Justin Turner - .423 wOBA, 168 wRC+
1B C.J. Cron - .380 wOBA, 142 wRC+

RF Avisail Garcia - .369 wOBA, 134 wRC+
SS Luis Urias - .372 wOBA, 133 wRC+
2B Keston Hiura - .291 wOBA, 77 wRC+
C Manny Pina - .317 wOBA, 93 wRC+


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Posted: February 03, 2021, 4:45 AM Post
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Let’s run with this and call it a day.


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Posted: February 03, 2021, 9:34 AM Post
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Posted: February 03, 2021, 9:43 AM Post
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Trade Ashby and Ward for Adam Frazier

Sign CJ Cron (1/4m) and Brad Miller (2/8m)

vs RHP (3yr OPS)
CF Lorenzo Cain 0.715
RF Adam Frazier 0.786
LF Christian Yelich 1.018
2B Keston Hiura 0.896
DH Dan Vogelbach 0.825
1B CJ Cron 0.740
3B Brad Miller 0.825
C Omar Narvaez 0.802
SS Luis Urias 0.545

Bench:
C Manny Pina 0.694
OF Billy McKinney 0.758
IF Daniel Robertson 0.703
OF Avisail Garcia 0.720


vs LHP (3yr OPS)
CF Lorenzo Cain 0.862
3B Daniel Robertson 0.749
LF Christian Yelich 0.975
DH Keston Hiura 0.679
RF Avasail Garcia 0.806
C Manny Pina 0.752
1B CJ Cron 0.957
2B Adam Frazier 0.625
SS Luis Urias 0.873

Bench:
OF Billy McKinney 0.599
IF Brad Miller 0.638
1B Dan Vogelbach 0.541
C Omar Narvaez 0.633


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Posted: February 03, 2021, 9:48 AM Post
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Sign CJ Cron (1/4m) and Brad Miller (2/8m)

Cron, yes. Miller, no.

Miller is way too similar to Eric Sogard to me. Former Brewer coming off two years better than expected since he left, only to (likely) stink upon return. I'd rather have Robertson and Urias get 3B.


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Posted: February 03, 2021, 9:59 AM Post
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Vollbc74 said:
Sign CJ Cron (1/4m) and Brad Miller (2/8m)

Cron, yes. Miller, no.

Miller is way too similar to Eric Sogard to me. Former Brewer coming off two years better than expected since he left, only to (likely) stink upon return. I'd rather have Robertson and Urias get 3B.


While there are similarities, Miller has crushed RHP since leaving MKE. .939 vs RHP in 2019 and .828 in 2020. Between Miller and Robertson we would have 2 guys that complement each other very well as our 3B platoon, and both have a little positional flexibility on their bench days.


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Posted: February 03, 2021, 10:04 AM Post
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Warning Track Power said:
Vollbc74 said:
Sign CJ Cron (1/4m) and Brad Miller (2/8m)

Cron, yes. Miller, no.

Miller is way too similar to Eric Sogard to me. Former Brewer coming off two years better than expected since he left, only to (likely) stink upon return. I'd rather have Robertson and Urias get 3B.


While there are similarities, Miller has crushed RHP since leaving MKE. .939 vs RHP in 2019 and .828 in 2020. Between Miller and Robertson we would have 2 guys that complement each other very well as our 3B platoon, and both have a little positional flexibility on their bench days.

Can disagree with statistics. Miller simply has no upside to me at age 31and the situation feels too familiar with Sogard. I guess it just comes down to I would rather give time to Robertson (age 26) and Urias (age 23) and see if they can reclaim their shine rather than go with Miller.


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Posted: February 03, 2021, 10:17 AM Post
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If the Brewers rolled out a lineup of the following, would it be good enough with Burnes and Woodruff at the top of the rotation and Hader and Williams at the back end:

Player 1: .288/.348/.761
Player 2: .296/.388/.870
Player 3: .266/.388/.843
Player 4: .271/.324/.746
Player 5: .267/.355/.753
Player 6: .206/.332/.741
Player 7: .226/.315/.635
Player 8: .244/.295/.660

Those are the career averages of every current projected starter for the Brewers. If the top five (Cain, Yelich, Hiura, Garcia, Narvaez) meet that and Player 7 (Urias) jumps that to around .250 and keeps the AVG-OBP in the 80-90 differential, the Brewers could be in relatively decent shape.

Hearing Stearns all offseason, this has always been the plan. Assume 2020 was the aberration and each of the regulars will return to their career averages, with Urias ascending. Risky proposition but not out of the realm of possibility.


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Posted: February 03, 2021, 1:21 PM Post
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3 way trade.

Hader to NYM (or another team but for young guys) for prospects that go to Cleveland, Ramirez to Milwaukee, Hiura to Cleveland

Sign Cron

Sign Walker or Rich Hill


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Posted: February 03, 2021, 3:04 PM Post
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Ok, forget Turner, just need C.J. Cron to complete the picture!

2017-2020 vs RHP

LHB 2B Kolten Wong - .273/.362/.410/.772, .333 wOBA, 108 wRC+
RHB CF Lorenzo Cain - .284/.356/.388/.744, .327 wOBA, 102 wRC+
LHB LF Christian Yelich - .302/.401/.556/.957, .400 wOBA, 151 wRC+
RHB DH Keston Hiura - .274/.344/.552/.896, .373 wOBA, 131 wRC+
LHB 1B Daniel Vogelbach - .227/.354/.459/.812, .347 wOBA, 120 wRC+
RHB RF Avisail Garcia - .268/.320/.441/.760, .324 wOBA, 104 wRC+
LHB C Omar Narvez - .278/.355/.428/.783, .339 wOBA, 114 wRC+
RHB 3B Daniel Robertson - .231/.337/.343/.680, .306 wOBA, 94 wRC+
RHB SS Orlando Arcia - .251/.296/.376/.672, .286 wOBA, 73 wRC+


2017-2020 vs LHP

RHB SS Luis Urias - .337/.373/.500/.873, .372 wOBA, 133 wRC+
RHB CF Lorenzo Cain - .306/.378/.474/.851, .363 wOBA, 126 wRC+
LHB LF Christian Yelich - .294/.377/.528/.905, .381 wOBA, 138 wRC+
RHB 1B C.J. Cron - .291/.353/.566/.919, .380 wOBA, 142 wRC+
RHB RF Avisail Garcia - .320/.379/.494/.873, .369 wOBA, 134 wRC+
RHB DH Keston Hiura - .240/.322/.357/.679, .291 wOBA, 77 wRC+
LHB 2B Kolten Wong - .272/.331/.355/.686, .299 wOBA, 86 wRC+
RHB C Manny Pina - .272/.333/.402/.735, .317 wOBA, 93 wRC+
RHB 3B Daniel Robertson - .239/.351/.370/.721, .321 wOBA, 104 wRC+


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Posted: February 03, 2021, 3:08 PM Post
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It doesn't solve the 3B issue, unless the Brewers are legitimately fine with a Robertson/Urias combo there, but Cron would seem to be a really nice add based on where things stand now.


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Posted: February 03, 2021, 4:11 PM Post
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Hader/Hiura to the Mets for Smith/McNeil?


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Posted: February 03, 2021, 4:14 PM Post
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Hader/Hiura to the Mets for Smith/McNeil?


Would love it but I think the Mets value McNeil super high.

I would do Hader, Hiura, and they could pick 2 of any our prospects for Smith and McNeil.


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Posted: February 03, 2021, 4:21 PM Post
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Hader/Hiura to the Mets for Smith/McNeil?


Would love it but I think the Mets value McNeil super high.

I would do Hader, Hiura, and they could pick 2 of any our prospects for Smith and McNeil.


The trade value site (I know, I'm a skeptic too) says Hader/Hiura/Turang is almost equal value to Smith/McNeil, and I'd do that trade today. Solidifies both corners and fixes the offense.


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Posted: February 03, 2021, 4:25 PM Post
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Hader/Hiura to the Mets for Smith/McNeil?


Would love it but I think the Mets value McNeil super high.

I would do Hader, Hiura, and they could pick 2 of any our prospects for Smith and McNeil.


The trade value site (I know, I'm a skeptic too) says Hader/Hiura/Turang is almost equal value to Smith/McNeil, and I'd do that trade today. Solidifies both corners and fixes the offense.


Without a doubt I would do that trade. Smith is a little bit of an unknown but McNeil would be our Cirillo for many years.


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Posted: February 03, 2021, 4:43 PM Post
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Hader/Hiura to the Mets for Smith/McNeil?

I am not in love with Dominic Smith but I would love to get my hands on Jeff McNeil. He just screams professional hitter ala Paul Molitor, Jeff Cirillo, Mark Loretta. Hader and Hiura feels a little steep to me given Hiura is 4 years younger than McNeil and could, in time, develop into that professional hitter type.

Perhaps a Hader, Hiura, Lutz for McNeil, Smith and Nimmo trade. That feels more in line to me.


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