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Posted: January 01, 2021, 8:12 PM Post
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I been looking around different sites but its been no talk in regard to the Crew.
I know we are no spending and continue to look at Bargain basement steals but it will be nice to see some Brewers news.The Brewers are still missing a quality 3rd Base bat and maybe another Starter. The brewers basically failed miserable looking at reclamation projects so not looking for those type of additions.


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Posted: January 01, 2021, 8:29 PM Post
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The offseason so far as been painfully quiet for all of MLB, not just the Brewers. I think it was Heyman that tweeted something to the effect that only around 30 of the 300 free agents have struck deals so far. Hopefully things start picking up here in January.


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Posted: January 01, 2021, 8:34 PM Post
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Here is hoping maybe the Crew can find a player or two in this quiet offseason.


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Posted: January 01, 2021, 8:37 PM Post
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Other than the Padres, what team has been active?

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Posted: January 01, 2021, 9:12 PM Post
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Brew4U said:
Other than the Padres, what team has been active?


Tampa Bay (2 different trades)...


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Posted: January 02, 2021, 1:02 AM Post
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I just hope the Crew can nail someone to play 3RD. This is a year we’re the crew can take advantage of the rest of the division.


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Posted: January 02, 2021, 7:58 AM Post
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Offseason has been quiet overall. In addition to that, Brewers generally keep things under wrap until a deal is actually done. Yelich, Cain and Grandal all came out of if not nowhere, then at least deep left field in one of those old extremely large ballparks from the 19th century. EDIT: Not that I expect signings of that magnitude, just pointing out that even the big deals don't get talked much about until they actually happen.

As for reclamation projects: That it didn't work once is not a reason to not do it again. It's the nature of it, if it was a given (Or at least very likely) that the player would do well it wouldn't be a reclamation project, and the contract cost would reflect that as more teams would be interested. You accept a relatively high failure rate because the upside of a success is high. I would also argue that out of the signings made last offseason, only Gyorko (After an injury-marred 2019) was a reclamation project. Sogard and Narvaez were coming off their career best seasons, Garcia off his second best one, Brock Holt was being Brock Holt. Smoak had a dropoff between '18 and '19, but that seemed largely BABIP-driven when in fact his walk rate, strikeout rate and exit velo had all improved. So he would at most be a "buy low". And the reclamation project among them was the one who performed, by far, the best.


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Posted: January 02, 2021, 8:43 AM Post
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If the roster is still sitting where it's currently at on Feb. 1, I'll be concerned. I expect January to be a busy month player personnel-wise, though. Not sure if they will come via trade or free agency, but I expect a LHH 3B, a RHH 1B/3B, another utility infielder type, a starting pitcher, and at least one bullpen addition.

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Posted: January 02, 2021, 9:29 AM Post
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The two guys I think make the most sense for the Brewers from a cost and need basis, C.J. Cron and Jake Lamb are still available. It's a waiting game to get them to accept the low end of their range. The Brewers should be able to land both without a huge investment. Both add power, and have logical platoon partners already on the roster. I still could see Joc Pederson as a target too, but he's got quite a few suitors and might be out of their range. I also am sure the Brewers will add arms on minor league deals or minimal contracts.


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Posted: January 02, 2021, 9:29 AM Post
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If the roster is still sitting where it's currently at on Feb. 1, I'll be concerned. I expect January to be a busy month player personnel-wise, though. Not sure if they will come via trade or free agency, but I expect a LHH 3B, a RHH 1B/3B, another utility infielder type, a starting pitcher, and at least one bullpen addition.


I expect these types of things to happen also. My real concern is who these acquisitions will be. Just not a lot out there that scream “we are contenders”. The rostered guys we do have outside a few, are just meh. Heck, even the top end talent guys have question marks surrounding them. Hopefully, it all goes well for the Brewers moving forward but it just doesn’t have a good feel around the organization to me.

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Posted: January 02, 2021, 9:39 AM Post
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Ron Robinson's Beard said:
If the roster is still sitting where it's currently at on Feb. 1, I'll be concerned. I expect January to be a busy month player personnel-wise, though. Not sure if they will come via trade or free agency, but I expect a LHH 3B, a RHH 1B/3B, another utility infielder type, a starting pitcher, and at least one bullpen addition.


I expect these types of things to happen also. My real concern is who these acquisitions will be. Just not a lot out there that scream “we are contenders”. The rostered guys we do have outside a few, are just meh. Heck, even the top end talent guys have question marks surrounding them. Hopefully, it all goes well for the Brewers moving forward but it just doesn’t have a good feel around the organization to me.


That is correct. It is very unlikely that the Brewers are going to be able to acquire major difference-making talent from outside the organization. It's going to take the top-end talent guys like Yelich, Hiura, Cain, and to a lesser extent Narvaez and Garcia, to step up and perform like that have proven they are capable of in the past. It's going to take Woodruff to continue to operate like a #1, and Burnes to continue the trajectory he showed in 2020. It's going to take a couple of Houser, Lauer, Lindblom or perhaps one of the young guys like Bettinger or File stepping up to effectively fill out the rotation.

Yeah, lots of "ifs" there, but what MLB team outside of the Dodgers and perhaps the Padres now doesn't have the same type of "ifs"?

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Posted: January 02, 2021, 10:19 AM Post
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I can understand why Stearns might think he rolled the dice and got Gyorko's last big offensive season in 2020 and now wants to move on. However, Gyorko seems like such a great fit with needing third base help and a right-handed bat to fill in some at first base...now it just makes perfect sense to bring him back. So I'm really surprised that there is no chatter regarding him. Just wonder if the Brewers aren't all that interested or if Gyroko now thinks he's a 2 year, 12 million dollar player (which he might be in a normal market, but very likely not in a COVID-19 market).


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Posted: January 02, 2021, 1:05 PM Post
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If you bring Gyorko back you have to find a platoon partner. Gyoko had a OPS of 1.048 against LHP but a .699 against RHP.


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Posted: January 02, 2021, 7:09 PM Post
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reclamation projects are just not the way to build a WS Team. There has to have a lot of luck involved getting production from those type of players.


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Posted: January 02, 2021, 10:17 PM Post
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reclamation projects are just not the way to build a WS Team. There has to have a lot of luck involved getting production from those type of players.


Agreed. Nothing wrong with using those guys as occasional/situational bench bats, but expecting them to be difference makers and relying on them to help carry the team to the WS is a tough sell. They’re basically band-aid players, and expecting more of them is a fool’s errand.


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Posted: January 03, 2021, 5:45 AM Post
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reclamation projects are just not the way to build a WS Team. There has to have a lot of luck involved getting production from those type of players.


Agreed. No team could win the WS by signing a 3B with 93 wRC+ and so-so defense and just magically hope he gets better. Or a utility guy who put up 70 wRC+ in his first two years who even the Oakland A's sent to the minors for a whole year and then released. Or a reliever in his 30s coming off an almost 5 ERA season. No, better stay away from Justin Turner, Max Muncy and Blake Treinen.

Dodgers of course had many other players who were acquired under different circumstances too, but they are where they are because in addition to having all the money in the world to sign Mookie Betts or extend Clayton Kershaw, they still look for improvements whereever they can find it. A reasonably point would be to say you can't sign "only" reclamation projects. But you can, and should, look to find the players among the overlooked and unwanted who actually can be good players still. I would say that for any team with a substantially lower payroll than the richest teams, that's what you *have* to do to even have a chance. If you only ever pay market value (or more) for established players and "sure things", you will lose to a team that does the same but spends more.


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Posted: January 03, 2021, 3:00 PM Post
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The Brewers will add these guys and they will try to sell the fans.


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Posted: January 05, 2021, 3:55 PM Post
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The offseason so far as been painfully quiet for all of MLB, not just the Brewers. I think it was Heyman that tweeted something to the effect that only around 30 of the 300 free agents have struck deals so far. Hopefully things start picking up here in January.


I'm sure teams and players are talking, but the offers are just below what the players hope to get. Eventually, someone is going to have to crack as teams need players and players need teams, but most of the deals will probably be for one year, as the teams are worried about whether there will be any fans in the stands, and players will just want to get to the new CBA.

If this is the case, I hope Attanasio okay's a "Grandal/Moose" type of signing where the team goes a bit over budget because a player they didn't expect to be able to afford falls into their price range.

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Posted: January 05, 2021, 5:40 PM Post
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Do we have a date when Arbitration happens for Hader and Woodruff?


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Posted: January 06, 2021, 11:44 AM Post
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What does anyone truly expect?

The Brewers have never historically been big players in free agency. Since Stearns was hired to run the team, all of their free agents outside of Lorenzo Cain have been either value signings or more of the spare part variety than core player.

They are more active in trades; however since they intend to compete in their division, the major league roster features players who are arguably more valuable to the Brewers than what they could get for those same players in a trade.

As for trading minor league talent for major league players; the moves to bolster the major league roster the last three years with Yelich, Swarzak, Moustakas, Schoop, Soria, Gio Gonzalez, Jordan Lyles, Pomeranz, etc. has left their minor league system virtually devoid of premium talent which is an impediment to making a trade to bring aboard an established veteran.

If the 2021 season does start on time there will likely be a flurry of activity at the end of this month and into February, and I'm sure the Brewers will be on the look out for value signings like the vast majority of free agents they have signed in the last half decade.


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