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Posted: July 21, 2018, 4:03 PM Post
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So Clone Wars is coming back!


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Disney needs to sit down and figure out a long term plan, similar to what they did with the Marvel Universe. It seems like they keep piecing these things together based on the reaction of the last movie. It’s not that I don’t like the Clone Wars and I’m sure I’ll watch it. But it’s been over for how long now? Asohka already made appearance in Rebels where she and Thrawn kind of disappeared with no real explanation as to whether or not we’ll ever see them again. Now we go back in time with her again to the Clone Wars? The Star Wars universe is an absolute mess right now.


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Posted: July 23, 2018, 10:24 AM Post
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I believe this is Disney just saying sorry we ended Clone Wars early here is the makeup last season we were going to do and oh yeah subscribe to our new streaming service!

Basically Disney needed something to put on their new streaming service. I'm not sure why they ended Rebels as they could have used that instead of Clone Wars but whatever. I wouldn't be surprised if Rebels came back at some point also.


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Posted: July 27, 2018, 10:26 PM Post
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paul253 said:
Disney needs to sit down and figure out a long term plan, similar to what they did with the Marvel Universe. It seems like they keep piecing these things together based on the reaction of the last movie. It’s not that I don’t like the Clone Wars and I’m sure I’ll watch it. But it’s been over for how long now? Asohka already made appearance in Rebels where she and Thrawn kind of disappeared with no real explanation as to whether or not we’ll ever see them again. Now we go back in time with her again to the Clone Wars? The Star Wars universe is an absolute mess right now.


I think they just need to get past the final part of the Lucas original Star Wars and they will be able to do this. Right now the fans are stuck on the Lucas era Star Wars. I think going back into the past and doing something like the Knights of the Old Republic would be a good place to start. My favorite non cannon character is Revan and if they want to do the whole strong female character thing they can go with the after Revan timeline and do the The Exile's story line.

Another video game character that I like in the Star Wars universe is Darth Malgus. From the expanded universe Darth Bane wouldn't be a bad starting point either but then that starts to get into the Lucas era Star Wars with Plagueis. I really believe they either need to go far into the future or go far into the past. I hope they go far into the past as I love the Knights of the Old Republic story lines. It gives you the Mandalorians, the Sith, the Republic, and the old Jedi Order. I think a story line from there is far more interesting.


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Posted: January 15, 2019, 6:30 PM Post
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Normally I hate all fan made stuff but this was rather good. Kind of sad that Disney monetized this when Lucas Films told him he wouldn't be able to monetize or crowdfund this. He had to put all of his own money into this and Disney just goes ahead and basically steals it.



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Watched Solo today. I got lost on how Emilia Clark's character is written. Separated to a great knowledgeable Somebody in the hierarchy of the villain within the film. Also, the guy who played young Solo, it seemed a number of scenes he portrayed Ford's voice well and others sounding like Chris Pine. Oh and L3 was a big problem of character they wrote in with Lando's emotional tie-in? There felt like some political reference being tossed in on her...it's? dialogue with today's society.

I was still entertained by the movie and if it was on it's own story with no ties to any Star Wars history, it'd even feel better.


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Posted: December 19, 2019, 1:22 PM Post
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For whatever reason I am not all that excited for the new Star Wars movie as I was for the others.


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Watched Solo today. I got lost on how Emilia Clark's character is written. Separated to a great knowledgeable Somebody in the hierarchy of the villain within the film. Also, the guy who played young Solo, it seemed a number of scenes he portrayed Ford's voice well and others sounding like Chris Pine. Oh and L3 was a big problem of character they wrote in with Lando's emotional tie-in? There felt like some political reference being tossed in on her...it's? dialogue with today's society.

I was still entertained by the movie and if it was on it's own story with no ties to any Star Wars history, it'd even feel better.


Honestly I think Solo might be my favorite or second favorite movie. Rogue one the other. It’s just so light and action packed, not this crap like TFA where I sat for 3 hours and then...what happened?

Skywalker is an awful movie. Just pathetic.


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Posted: December 20, 2019, 11:29 PM Post
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Star Wars fans don't know what they want.

Movie that's a call back to the original trilogy? "BOOOOO!"

Movie that subverts expectations and changes the way we think about star wars? "BOOOOOOOO!" (Also with a side helping of death threats)

Go back to the "Safe" path and the tried-and-true formula? "BOOOOOOO! This craps all over what happened in the last movie that I didn't like (but saw 5 times in the theatre) anyways!"

Star Wars fans are the epitome of what's wrong with fandom. What's going on right now reminds me of when GoT wrapped up and 1.5 million people sent a petition to the white House to make them change the finale.


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Posted: December 21, 2019, 8:00 AM Post
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Star Wars fans don't know what they want.

Movie that's a call back to the original trilogy? "BOOOOO!"

Movie that subverts expectations and changes the way we think about star wars? "BOOOOOOOO!" (Also with a side helping of death threats)

Go back to the "Safe" path and the tried-and-true formula? "BOOOOOOO! This craps all over what happened in the last movie that I didn't like (but saw 5 times in the theatre) anyways!"

Star Wars fans are the epitome of what's wrong with fandom. What's going on right now reminds me of when GoT wrapped up and 1.5 million people sent a petition to the white House to make them change the finale.

We were meant to suffer. It's our lot in life.

I will concede there is a segment of Star Wars fans that only seem to like Empire Strikes Back. Don't let them or the critics cloud your judgement. Audience reviews are holding strong for The Rise of Skywalker on Rotten Tomatoes, currently the same % as The Force Awakens. It's nowhere near as polarizing as The Last Jedi.


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Posted: December 21, 2019, 8:06 AM Post
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RoCoBrewfan said:
Star Wars fans don't know what they want.

Movie that's a call back to the original trilogy? "BOOOOO!"

Movie that subverts expectations and changes the way we think about star wars? "BOOOOOOOO!" (Also with a side helping of death threats)

Go back to the "Safe" path and the tried-and-true formula? "BOOOOOOO! This craps all over what happened in the last movie that I didn't like (but saw 5 times in the theatre) anyways!"

Star Wars fans are the epitome of what's wrong with fandom. What's going on right now reminds me of when GoT wrapped up and 1.5 million people sent a petition to the white House to make them change the finale.


Well put. I think much if the problem is that Star Wars fans feel that every movie needs to be as good as a new hope snd empire simply because it is from the Star Wars universe. Rise of Skywalker was good, not great, but definitely not awful or pathetic. The Palpatine stuff was a bit weird but overall it was fun and entertaining.


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I kind of wish I hadn’t read so many of the now “legends” books before Disney bought Lucasfilm. I thought, minus a few stories that were way out there, the general plot was much better than the one Disney put out. I think there is just too much random stuff in the sequel trilogy that should have been explained but wasn’t. First off, did we ever figure out who Snoke was or where he came from? Also, the Knights of Ren? Where did they come from and what was their purpose? Why did Han and Leia separate? I think Luke was completely underutilized. And barely any mention of the New Republic? The whole trilogy feels disjointed, kind of like they were making it up as they went.


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It was certainly a mistake not to have a general plan from the start. Would have liked Johnson to finish things up or JJ do all three. It just didn't work going from JJ to Johnson and back to JJ. They both kind of just dismissed or threw out what they didn't like about the other's creation. Having the Emperor come back didn't work at all and made no sense but when Snoke was killed JJ probably felt he needed that big bad guy. Do think the chemistry between Rey/ Finn/Poe was always there and much better than Anakin/Padme/Kenobi from the prequels. Also was nice to see Chewbacca and C-3PO play a decent role in ROS.


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I’ll probably get around to the sequel trilogy if my young son ever develops an interest in Star Wars.

If I understand Wikipedia correctly, the primary antagonist in Episode 9 is the same as Return of the Jedi. Does that strike anyone else as really lazy? It minimizes the significance of Vader killing Palpatine, which is also Anakin’s redeeming moment (rejecting the dark side, giving his life for his son’s).


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It can be both.

It's a lazy bit of writing, but it's still Anakin Skywalker's redeeming moment. Palpatine surviving doesn't change the fact that Anakin made a "good" choice to sacrifice himself to save Luke.

I think having different writers just made for a disjointed trilogy. Snoke wasn't an interesting villain, and Rian Johnson tried to make Kylo Ren the big-bad by killing off the uninteresting villain (snoke) That left JJ Abrams with the choice of either keeping Kylo Ren as the big-bad, or giving him a redemption arc, and introducing a new big-bad, which isn't a great idea for the third act of a story, or re-using palpatine. Also not a great idea. If Palpatine was going to be re-used, it should have been hinted at in either 7 or 8, which is why I don't buy for a second that this was planned out from the start.

I think ultimately the problems they had is that RJ and JJ just wanted to take the franchise/story in two very different directions, thematically. I could have seen going with different directions for each episode, but different writers for each left us with what we have, which is stories that don't really feel connected. When I watched this movie, it kind of felt like it was trying to be a sequel to 7 instead of 8, while carefully admitting that the events of 8 actually happened.

It is what it is, I enjoyed the movie quite a bit. Maybe with multiple viewings I'll be more critical. Probably will be. Plot holes and story elements that don't make sense show up more the more you view a movie but my first impression was simply that it was a fun popcorn movie that felt very "Star-Warsy". Here's hoping Disney learns from their mistakes and successes and moves forward and gives us some new, good Star Wars stories in the near future.


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I'm not a huge Star Wars fan. I mean, that's disingenuous. The original trilogy bores me to death, and the 90s ones are just laughably bad to me.

With that said, the Disney films are the only ones I've ever been able to sit through awake. They're fine. I think the whole franchise is drastically overrated. My kids love it, and I think that was always the intention. It's taken way too seriously and a lot of the fans take it too seriously.

As a story itself, I think it's less creative than a lot of less heralded franchises. But everyone has an opinion.

I thought the new one was fun, gave me chills at several moments. I certainly didn't think it was as bad as critics said.


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I'm not a huge Star Wars fan. I mean, that's disingenuous. The original trilogy bores me to death, and the 90s ones are just laughably bad to me.

With that said, the Disney films are the only ones I've ever been able to sit through awake. They're fine. I think the whole franchise is drastically overrated. My kids love it, and I think that was always the intention. It's taken way too seriously and a lot of the fans take it too seriously.

As a story itself, I think it's less creative than a lot of less heralded franchises. But everyone has an opinion.

I thought the new one was fun, gave me chills at several moments. I certainly didn't think it was as bad as critics said.


I always think about Anton Ego from Ratatoille when I read movie or book reviews. People that get paid to do reviews and say mean things about a movie or a book or a game should never be taken seriously.


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I thought the Rise of Skywalker was fantastic. Loved every minute of it. I’m a huge Star Wars fan and Episode 9 might’ve been my favorite. Thought it was awesome. So did my wife & teenager.

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The only thing I didn't really like was the ending of the movie. Everything else was very Star Warsy and it was better than the Last Jedi.


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As the credits rolled, I leaned in to my wife and said, "Okay, do you think they got everybody this time? I mean, this is now the FOURTH movie in the saga that, when the credits rolled, we were led to believe that the rebels got everyone."

Overall, it was fun, frantic, and entertaining. I was surprised that my emotions got to me several times, tears rolling down my cheek. Why? I don't really know. Maybe it was the realization that this was the last movie???

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