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Posted: August 21, 2017, 1:20 PM Post
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Downloaded the FoxSportsGo app downstairs on my Sony smart TV and yes, I'm watching the Brewers replay right now! Still would be nice to have it all in one interface in the PS Vue, but I'll deal with it for now.

Wow PS Vue has local channels in Milwaukee? That's awesome, really wish the Green Bay stations would have that...unless I haven't found them yet or it's not working properly. I might have to do a support chat with Playstation and find out.

Interesting. I have PS Vue (La Crosse), and I get both FSWI and FSNorth (Twins/TWolves). PSVue for me is $35 with the FoxSports channels, MLB Network, NFL Network, NBA, BTN, etc. And you can add RedZone for something like $40. I also have it set to record every Brewers game in case I am busy doing something else. Cannot be happier having PS Vue.


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Posted: August 21, 2017, 3:57 PM Post
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Personally I love the ability to cancel online service whenever I want for whatever reason. Some months I will have Sling, some not, Some months Netflix, some Hulu or WWE network. It all depends on what I want to watch, how much time I have and what offers these companies are giving me to come back. Plus I don't have to pay cable's monthly fee for HD boxes, remotes, FCC charges and the like. It was always a pain to cancel cable as well, with these streaming services it is just a click of the button. My antenna picks up the local stations great too.


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Posted: August 21, 2017, 3:57 PM Post

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I get the internet, Netflix, and Amazon Prime anyway. Those things in my opinion are a wash and while they are replacements for cable, I wouldn't count them as part of the cost of replacing cable. For me it would be the cost of cable vs Hulu and Sling. If I had cable I would still need an internet connection. I would also still subscribe to Amazon Prime and Netflix.

True, however, it's really cable/internet combo package cost - internet only cost vs Hulu and Sling, which often is only like $5-10 per month. In fact, when I tried to cut cable recently, they offered me the combo deal for less than the internet only deal I was aiming to get. Of course, that's pretty limited cable (although mine still included HBO and all the OnDemand content that comes with that) and it starts to rack back up if you start adding HD boxes and more channels, but if you're already getting internet, it usually doesn't cost much if anything to get some basic cable as well.


This is sort of what I was talking about. It is a lot of rigamarole to save $5-10 bucks a month, when if it were that big of a deal I could just brew extra coffee at home every morning and take it to work vs. buying a fresh one at the coffee shop across the street and save that much and more. I pay for Charter Spectrum Cable and Internet package. It's like $130 a month. I hate it, but I dont have to hunt and peck to find my local and sometimes national sports. I watch a ton of Brewers and Badgers, and I watch a lot of hockey, which is NBCSN and FOX Sports North, both of which I get on cable and would be blacked out on other deals.

For local news, I also prefer Fox11 in Green Bay for their local high school sports coverage, and being in Oshkosh it doesnt come in at all with an antenna. So its a no brainer for me to go with Charter.


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Posted: August 22, 2017, 4:59 PM Post
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I'm loving Vue right now and no cable but...my wife is having a hard time finding her favorite channels/shows on it. Lifetime Movies, Hallmark Channel that kind of stuff. Any of the streaming services have these channels? I don't even think Vue has CBS in Oshkosh. Our bedroom does not have a smart tv, only a ps4 hooked up to it maybe one of those roku/chrome/fire sticks have these apps built in or available for purchase?

She wants to cave and just get cable but I hate how every year your bill just goes up and up...then you switch to the other cable for a year or two and do the same thing again and again. Can't stand that. I like the no contracts aspect and really want her to as well thanks for the help.


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Posted: August 23, 2017, 11:27 AM Post
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I'm loving Vue right now and no cable but...my wife is having a hard time finding her favorite channels/shows on it. Lifetime Movies, Hallmark Channel that kind of stuff.

Sling has Hallmark, but I'm not sure about Lifetime. Many of the Netflix/Amazone/Hulu are picking up Hallmark TV series also. Depending on if she wants to wait or not.

This is sort of what I was talking about. It is a lot of rigamarole to save $5-10 bucks a month

I was in a spot where Dish was the only logical choice for our location. But after moving, I was able to pick up a lot more OTA and that helped make the change. I'm saving ~$100/month so its certainly worth it for me.


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Posted: August 23, 2017, 4:13 PM Post
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Personally I love the ability to cancel online service whenever I want for whatever reason. Some months I will have Sling, some not, Some months Netflix, some Hulu or WWE network. It all depends on what I want to watch, how much time I have and what offers these companies are giving me to come back. Plus I don't have to pay cable's monthly fee for HD boxes, remotes, FCC charges and the like. It was always a pain to cancel cable as well, with these streaming services it is just a click of the button. My antenna picks up the local stations great too.


I thought so too until a few weeks ago. You can now change your Comcast package right on their web page. Used to have to call them but now you can just check or uncheck boxes.

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Posted: August 23, 2017, 4:15 PM Post
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We have HBO Now, Showtime, Sling, Amazon Prime, and Netflix. More than enough to keep us occupied. I'll probably ditch Showtime and Sling once we are done with Homeland and the football season is over with.

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006


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Posted: August 23, 2017, 9:38 PM Post
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I'll also add that we just purchased a new TV (the old one died) that has Roku built into it. So we have quite a few other channels also.


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Posted: November 15, 2017, 11:28 AM Post
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Update for anyone thinking of getting Vue in the Fox Valley. They just added Fox 11 and NBC 26 as local channels from Green Bay. So this means now you get most local football, baseball, and basketball on Vue.

We play $5 a month for CBS all access which gives you the local CBS station for NFL games on there as well as other shows. Hope they add CBS and ABC eventually too.

For Brewers and Bucks you watch through the Fox Sports Go app, not through Vue. But you log into the app with your Vue login it's confusing but hey you get the shows included, just wish they were on Vue in this area instead of just the app.


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Posted: November 15, 2017, 7:11 PM Post
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For those who once had Directv or Dish and cut the cord but want local channels free, I highly recommend just installing an antenna on your roof. You can get a good 150 mile range one online for 25 bucks or so. You won't get 150 miles, but it'll do a lot better than the short range indoor ones. I live in Wisconsin Rapids and get NBC out of Eau Claire with no issues, which is almost 100 miles away.

Since all of the existing coaxial from your dish should still be in place it's an easy installation, just take your dish down and use the existing base for your antenna, you may need a pipe for more elevation if you're not getting good enough reception but that's about it. I am by no means a handyman and it was a breeze.

Of course if you live in a big city you can probably get by with the smaller indoor antennas.


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Posted: November 15, 2017, 9:48 PM Post
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My cable just went up to $180 per month which includes TV (no premium channels like HBO, SHO, Etc) Internet, and a landline phone. We can only get Spectrum for cable. When it was Time Warner Cable a few short months ago, we were paying $140 per month.

Immediately after they switched over to Spectrum, my promo offer ran out (another total scam that cable companies push onto their customers), and it jumped to $160. That was in May or June. Now, my last bill came in at $180. That is obscene to me, to pay that kind of money per month...

I have made two phone calls to Spectrum, trying to get that cost dropped, to no avail. They are playing absolute hardball. They told me I could probably save money off my bill by switching from my Time Warner Cable bundle to their Spectrum bundle. Huh? They are all under one roof now, why is that even a thing? So I had them figure it up, keeping my package the same, same channels, same internet speed, etc. My new bill would now be $1.46 MORE than I am currently paying, and would include the best internet speed they offer, new boxes on all my secondary tvs that would provide all the channels my main dvr tv gets (currently, that is not the case, those tvs only pick up a certain amount of channels), but they completely ignored my reason I called in the first place, which was to lower my freaking monthly bill.

Both times I have called, I got the same song and dance. blah blah blah I asked to talk to their supervisor, or someone who can give me a better deal than the regular joe phone jockeys, and both times, they were unable to make my bill any less.

Even when I threatened to leave for a dish company, they seemed uninterested, and don't care much if I leave.

Customer loyalty means nothing to them, been a customer for 13 years.

So what I am asking is this, does anyone have a strategy that works to get my bill lowered, or am I screwed? It seems at this point, they are going to force me to either pay their ridiculous bill, or leave and go to a satellite dish company, which I do NOT want to do, and which they really don't seem to care if I take that route.


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Posted: November 15, 2017, 10:37 PM Post
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My cable just went up to $180 per month which includes TV (no premium channels like HBO, SHO, Etc) Internet, and a landline phone. We can only get Spectrum for cable. When it was Time Warner Cable a few short months ago, we were paying $140 per month.

Immediately after they switched over to Spectrum, my promo offer ran out (another total scam that cable companies push onto their customers), and it jumped to $160. That was in May or June. Now, my last bill came in at $180. That is obscene to me, to pay that kind of money per month...

I have made two phone calls to Spectrum, trying to get that cost dropped, to no avail. They are playing absolute hardball. They told me I could probably save money off my bill by switching from my Time Warner Cable bundle to their Spectrum bundle. Huh? They are all under one roof now, why is that even a thing? So I had them figure it up, keeping my package the same, same channels, same internet speed, etc. My new bill would now be $1.46 MORE than I am currently paying, and would include the best internet speed they offer, new boxes on all my secondary tvs that would provide all the channels my main dvr tv gets (currently, that is not the case, those tvs only pick up a certain amount of channels), but they completely ignored my reason I called in the first place, which was to lower my freaking monthly bill.

Both times I have called, I got the same song and dance. blah blah blah I asked to talk to their supervisor, or someone who can give me a better deal than the regular joe phone jockeys, and both times, they were unable to make my bill any less.

Even when I threatened to leave for a dish company, they seemed uninterested, and don't care much if I leave.

Customer loyalty means nothing to them, been a customer for 13 years.

So what I am asking is this, does anyone have a strategy that works to get my bill lowered, or am I screwed? It seems at this point, they are going to force me to either pay their ridiculous bill, or leave and go to a satellite dish company, which I do NOT want to do, and which they really don't seem to care if I take that route.


For $180 bucks a month, what are you still doing there? By that I mean, what is it about cable TV that you can't do without? Local shows? NFL Sundays? Brewer games, Bucks games? Chances are, whatever it is, there's an alternative these days.

You mentioned you don't want to go to satellite, but there are other options. Have you considered any of them at this point?

To answer your question, for what it's worth, I'm very good friends with a guy who used to work for Charter (Spectrum) and he told me that their representatives have been trained in recent years to stand their ground and dig in their heels on re-issuing promotional offers. This seems surprising to me in this day and age where cord cutters have probably been cutting into their bottom line, but that's what he told me.

I used to play the same game with Directv and Dish Network and Directv was the only one I ever had luck at getting to hook me up, but sometimes I still had to press hard and talk to the right person. But I always told them first off that I was calling to cancel. And I did, if they couldn't help me.


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Posted: November 16, 2017, 8:15 AM Post
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$180 a month is obscene. I balked at paying over $100. I have a few options living in between Baltimore and Washington DC. I had Verizon FIOS for a few years and it fit what I needed. This year they jacked it way up to the point where I went through the hassle of having xfinity run a cable to my house just to swtich to them. I went through the song and dance with Verizon reps and the best they could do was lower the new bill by $5. Xfinity I was able to get my base cable, 150 mbps internet and hbo for 2 years at about $30 a month cheaper than FIOS and 50 Mbps faster connection. This also included access to wifi hotspots and no contract. FIOS wanted a 2 year lockin. I gave FIOS 3 chances to keep me and each rep was at the same level of only saving me $5. So I left no questions. Now I'm innudated with attempts to bring me back. They even sent a rep to my door which is pretty desperate. That doensn't even take into my ability to switch to DISH if I wanted. I don't want to and am more likely to only keep internet going forward once my promotion runs out.


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Posted: November 16, 2017, 8:27 AM Post
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Sometimes you have to stop bluffing and actual cancel the service, if they still don't offer you a deal they will constantly try to get you back after. I have been without cable for a couple of years and it is great. The freedom to buy/cancel Sling, Vue, Netflix, Hulu, etc is great


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Posted: November 16, 2017, 8:48 AM Post
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Sometimes you have to stop bluffing and actual cancel the service, if they still don't offer you a deal they will constantly try to get you back after. I have been without cable for a couple of years and it is great. The freedom to buy/cancel Sling, Vue, Netflix, Hulu, etc is great


So true. I never bluffed with the cable/satellite companies. I tell them, 'this is what you need to do to keep me', and if they can do it I stay, if not I go.

Its been my experience over the years with Dish and Directv that every time they don't give in and I cancel, I get bombarded with offers from them for months -- really low promo offers, 200 dollar VISA cards, etc.

So I'm sitting there scratching my head every time thinking, "This is a lot less than what I asked you to do, so why didn't you just do it and you wouldn't have lost me?"


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Posted: November 16, 2017, 11:03 AM Post
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If I were to switch to a dish system, what are the best companies out there?

Dish network, etc?

I have friends who have had bad experiences with satellite/dish systems, I just hate the thought of going that route.

The thought of switching is such a giant pain in the rear, new equipment, new services, new remotes, etc...


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Posted: November 16, 2017, 12:12 PM Post
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If I were to switch to a dish system, what are the best companies out there?

Dish network, etc?

I have friends who have had bad experiences with satellite/dish systems, I just hate the thought of going that route.

The thought of switching is such a giant pain in the rear, new equipment, new services, new remotes, etc...

I think it has been around 9 months since we left Dish Network. Our 12-year experience was great, but our price was around $110/month. It was certainly something different, but it was one of the best decisions we made.

We now have a Roku Streaming Stick on our three TVs. We did something similar as one poster listed above to use an OTA antenna. We do notice that when watching sporting events via the Internet, it may be 30 - 60 seconds behind. Funny when you receive a notice on your phone about a play, but it hasn't happened on TV, yet. [smile]


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Posted: November 16, 2017, 2:28 PM Post
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$180/month isn't bad. Remember, that includes high-end internet and local phone. Don't get me wrong, it's ridiculous. But compared to other packages it's not bad. I have looked at all options out there from time to time, piecing things together, and I figure I would have saved maybe $5-$10/month. But now I'm using a couple different providers (roku, appltev, FoxSports Go, etc), still need DVR, figure out how to have service for several TVS , antenna for locals, etc. Oh, and still need internet separately (which will now be more doing it that way of course) Vonage for my land line. Just a giant pain.

On another note, I did save a ton on cell service switching from VZ to Sprint.


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High end internet is too much internet for a lot of people. Unless you are streaming content on multiple devices at the same time you can usually get away with lesser speeds.

Speaking of cell service, I finally ditched my iPhone and Sprint and picked up a Motorola G5 and republic wireless account. Saves me like $40 a month.

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Posted: November 16, 2017, 5:07 PM Post
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If I were to switch to a dish system, what are the best companies out there?

Dish network, etc?

I have friends who have had bad experiences with satellite/dish systems, I just hate the thought of going that route.

The thought of switching is such a giant pain in the rear, new equipment, new services, new remotes, etc...

How's the weather where you live? Having the signal go out in rain is a pain... because when it's raining is when I'm going to be inside looking to watch TV. The only place I'd consider satellite is if I lived in the southwestern US. They don't credit you when the weather causes loss of signal.

I'd be curious as to what the individual costs are for each provider when you break it down into its parts - TV, premium channels, internet, phone, taxes, fees. Taxes and fees can vary depending on where you live. Post who your provider is and what these amounts are (making sure to indicate what your internet speed is and if you have any extra channels).

I have Xfinity in Chicago:
TV (220 channels, a middle-of-the-road package) + 75 Mbps internet + Starz (which I can't remove from the bundle) = $110 (claims to have $40 discount for bundle)
DVR (which is horrible, but they only have one option) = $10
Broadcast TV (local channels) fee = $7
Regional sports fee = $5 (necessary for Big Ten Network)
Taxes, surcharges, and fees = $15

Total - $147


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