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Posted: September 18, 2018, 9:38 AM Post
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The interesting thing about WWF/E is that they control everything about their history and make sure the fans perceive events how the company wants it to be perceived. So when they do historical things like this that give the impression that they aren't kayfabe, it's tough to tell what is real and what is what they want you to think is real. This HIAC match is the most scrutinized event in wrestling history behind the Montreal screw job and both have varying accounts of how things actually happened.

After having watched this clip and other videos about the match, I'm still of the opinion that every single thing that happened was planned and happened exactly as it was planned. Mick and others have said the plan was to start on top of the cage and then they sort of insinuate that every else just kind of happened. The throw off the cage was obviously planned, there's no way Taker just decided in the spur of the moment to do it. Mick being taken out on the stretcher only to come roaring back was planned, it's one of the oldest tricks in the book. Parts of the roof of the cage breaking as they walked on them was planned to add drama and to set up the chokeslam through the cage. If the cage was really breaking under their feet I can't imagine they would have stayed up there as long as they did and certainly not actually taken any bumps on it. I haven't seen the whole match in a while but I'm pretty sure there were multiple bumps on top of the cage. They knew where to go and what was going to happen with that panel. If you watch Taker he completely repositions himself before the chokeslam, does a 180 around Foley and makes sure he's not on the same panel. Now, I do believe that most everyone else involved in the match didn't know what was going to happen, hence the reactions from all the referees and medical people. And Vince's constant look of "Why did I let Mick do this?"

None of that takes anything away from the match or the hell Foley put his body through. I have read that Mick and Taker worked out the match between themselves and Mick didn't want anyone what they were going to do. Mainly so that no one would stop them but also so that Taker wouldn't be held responsible if anything happened to Mick and they could pass it off as an unplanned accident or Mick just being stupid and doing his own thing.


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Posted: March 07, 2019, 7:21 AM Post
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Haven't seen this posted yet.

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https://youtu.be/kUtW7ymtOh0


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Posted: November 15, 2019, 3:14 PM Post
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Anyone else watching AEW? I've seen everything except the PPV so far. Definitely more interesting than the WWE has been over the last decade plus.


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Posted: November 16, 2019, 6:57 PM Post
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Raw and Smackdown are usually a chore to watch. Slower pace, less exciting action, terrible storylines, etc. I can’t say the same for AEW. The show flies by. Fastest 2 hours on television.


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Posted: November 21, 2019, 3:17 PM Post
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I'm a fan of the jumpy, flippy stuff. I love when WCW would throw a bunch of random cruiserweights in the ring and have them put on a spot fest. It was palatable because they had a wide variety of wrestlers that could put on different types of matches. My two biggest disappointments with AEW so far is that basically every match is a borderline jumpy, flippy spot fest. Lots of high spots and someone almost always does some sort of top rope to outside the ring spot. I'd like to see a huge dude squash match every now and then or a Benoit/Melanko style technical match. The other thing is that there are hardly any storylines and of the few that they have they only further one or two a week.


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Posted: November 21, 2019, 4:32 PM Post
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I'm a fan of the jumpy, flippy stuff. I love when WCW would throw a bunch of random cruiserweights in the ring and have them put on a spot fest. It was palatable because they had a wide variety of wrestlers that could put on different types of matches. My two biggest disappointments with AEW so far is that basically every match is a borderline jumpy, flippy spot fest. Lots of high spots and someone almost always does some sort of top rope to outside the ring spot. I'd like to see a huge dude squash match every now and then or a Benoit/Melanko style technical match. The other thing is that there are hardly any storylines and of the few that they have they only further one or two a week.


I post this and then watch Dynamite from this week. Moxley and Darby Allin put on one hell of a match with no jumpy, flippy spots. Just two guys beating the crap out of each other. No weapons either. Great stuff.


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Posted: November 21, 2019, 6:32 PM Post
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All I've gotten to see is a bit of Dark on youtube so far-I only learned about AEW from your post. That Darby Allin vs Cima match had me thoroughly entertained.

I read that Malenko is a technical trainer for them, which certainly sounds like a good personnel move.


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