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Posted: March 11, 2020, 12:51 PM Post
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stoutdude04 said:
True, the flu does kill a lot more, but more people catch the flu. Mortality rates for the flu are .16%. Whereas this current virus is 2%. I personally think it is definitely something that needs to be kept in our thoughts.

One issue to keep in mind is the transmission rate. The flu has been around forever, there are probably thousands of strains and many people are vaccinated each year. Yet, we still have significant numbers of deaths (20-60K per year). Everyone has antibodies to a subset of influenza which provides partial protection and slows transmission. Nobody has immunity to COVID-19 so there will be an extremely high transmission rate as there isn't any part of the population that is currently protected. With the slow progress to symptoms there will be significant time for an infected individual to infect others.

So in theory this is a very serious health outbreak. It appears shutting down areas of infection for ~4-6 weeks is successful with reducing the transmission and containing the issue. Efforts should be made to test anyone who has had an interaction with an infected individual and for many people to self isolate as possible in affected areas and for people outside effected ares who have had contact with individuals in those areas.

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Stearns probably had no interest in getting a C because the Brewers need a C. It makes much more sense to trade for 3B when it's not needed, and then move the other 3B to 2B, then trade for a 2B, but since the 3B is now at 2B, then the new 2B goes to SS


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Posted: March 11, 2020, 12:56 PM Post
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PeaveyFury said:
I think it will be interesting to see what the numbers begin to look like now that expanded testing should more accurately capture the denominator in the mortality rate. I’m also curious to see what access to care in Europe/the US does to those rates vs. the initial cases as well.


The Chinese repurposed numerous hospitals as treatment centers to handle the influx of individuals and modified existing instruments to help reduce mortality. For serious cases they received oxygenation of RBC outside the body as their lungs were shutting down. That means lots of people on dialysis with the proper machinery to highly oxygenate the blood. It's not clear the US health industry can 1) act in a coordinated manner as in a dictatorship, and 2) even have the necessary hardware to deal with a large number of infected/severe cases.

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Stearns probably had no interest in getting a C because the Brewers need a C. It makes much more sense to trade for 3B when it's not needed, and then move the other 3B to 2B, then trade for a 2B, but since the 3B is now at 2B, then the new 2B goes to SS


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Posted: March 11, 2020, 1:17 PM Post
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So all the colleges are shutting down, while all their students are traveling...

Seems a bit counterproductive. Imagine the number of students getting infected on spring break. If they stayed home, would there be as much reason to shut down campuses?

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Posted: March 11, 2020, 1:40 PM Post
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turborickey said:
So all the colleges are shutting down, while all their students are traveling...

Seems a bit counterproductive. Imagine the number of students getting infected on spring break. If they stayed home, would there be as much reason to shut down campuses?


I think that's the point. They know those people are all gonna travel so bringing them all back together would be a recipe for mass spreading. Yea, if you could somehow make them not travel but how are you going to enforce that? Especially as a big chunk of people walking around telling everyone it's just like the flu, no big deal. Plus, young people are unlikely themselves to be at risk. It's them getting it and spreading it to others more at risk that would be the problem.


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Posted: March 11, 2020, 2:51 PM Post
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Hawing, I heard UW Madison is shutting down. How does that affect you?

Hahaha, I just had to post about this 90 minutes before that announcement went out.

Thanks for asking. UW-Madison is not shutting down fully. They're suspending in-person instruction from the end of spring break (the first day back would have been Monday 3/23) until at least April 10. The dorms will be closed to most residents during that time. (Some such as international students may be allowed to stay.) They'll decide in early April whether to extend the disruptions past April 10.

So every service provider on campus now has to decide what services, if any, to provide during that time. That includes the campus libraries, but doesn't include my specific library because mine is part of a separate state agency. Typically my building could only close or reduce operations with the governor's approval.

I had already planned for short staffing during spring break, but an additional two weeks would be difficult if we have to maintain our normal spring semester schedule. The closing of the dorms affects about half of my group of student employees (and I don't think I can require the non-dormsters to return to Madison sooner than April 10.) So I'm hoping we can continue spring break hours past spring break - but again, that's up to the governor or his designee.

We'll be getting plenty of calls soon enough from people wondering if we closed down or what. I'd like to go take a nap now.

Remember: the Brewers never panic like you do.


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Posted: March 12, 2020, 2:02 PM Post
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As a parent of 3 young children one thing that makes me sleep much easier these days is the very minimal effect of the virus on children. There's enough to worry about these days and at least not really having to worry about children catching this moreso than anything else is a big weight off.


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Posted: March 12, 2020, 2:06 PM Post
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tmwiese55 said:
turborickey said:
So all the colleges are shutting down, while all their students are traveling...

Seems a bit counterproductive. Imagine the number of students getting infected on spring break. If they stayed home, would there be as much reason to shut down campuses?


I think that's the point. They know those people are all gonna travel so bringing them all back together would be a recipe for mass spreading. Yea, if you could somehow make them not travel but how are you going to enforce that? Especially as a big chunk of people walking around telling everyone it's just like the flu, no big deal. Plus, young people are unlikely themselves to be at risk. It's them getting it and spreading it to others more at risk that would be the problem.


Yup, it is no coincidence most are shutting down so there is a 2 week (14 day or so) gap before kids would come back. Basically assures no one would get the coronavirus over break and then bring it back to spread at the school.


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Posted: March 12, 2020, 2:18 PM Post
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I'm aware of the popular coronavirus tracking map put out there by John Hopkins U. However, is anyone aware of any site that has stats in regards to the breakdown of positive vs. negative results for all tests given so far. Possibly doesn't exist since I'm hearing that the government does not even have clear data on just the total number of tests administered to date (which seems crazy).


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Posted: March 12, 2020, 2:34 PM Post
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Patrick425 said:
I'm aware of the popular coronavirus tracking map put out there by John Hopkins U. However, is anyone aware of any site that has stats in regards to the breakdown of positive vs. negative results for all tests given so far. Possibly doesn't exist since I'm hearing that the government does not even have clear data on just the total number of tests administered to date (which seems crazy).


Just looked at what you are describing...believe it was the CDC website. It is outdated by a few days.


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Posted: March 12, 2020, 2:44 PM Post
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Anyone else looking into travel cancellations and the policies of airlines/hotels? It appears that American is offering vouchers and Hilton is offering full refunds, but Hyatt and other hotel chains aren't offering any relief on non-refundable rates as of yet, unless you were going to Italy or China, etc. Is everyone likely to fall in-line with full refundability within the next few days?


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Posted: March 12, 2020, 2:47 PM Post
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Anyone else looking into travel cancellations and the policies of airlines/hotels? It appears that American is offering vouchers and Hilton is offering full refunds, but Hyatt and other hotel chains aren't offering any relief on non-refundable rates as of yet, unless you were going to Italy or China, etc. Is everyone likely to fall in-line with full refundability within the next few days?


I have a flight on American 3/23, returning 3/30. I'm 98% sure I'm not going regardless. It was a web special purchased with miles, so I'm praying for an announcement between now and then they will waive the reinstatement on the miles. Otherwise, I'll just be eating it, which sucks. 4 people RT on miles is a lot of miles.


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Posted: March 12, 2020, 2:58 PM Post
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Patrick425 said:
I'm aware of the popular coronavirus tracking map put out there by John Hopkins U. However, is anyone aware of any site that has stats in regards to the breakdown of positive vs. negative results for all tests given so far. Possibly doesn't exist since I'm hearing that the government does not even have clear data on just the total number of tests administered to date (which seems crazy).


Just looked at what you are describing...believe it was the CDC website. It is outdated by a few days.



Is this what you are talking about? Still does not provide a breakdown of the results of each test.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... in-us.html

Edit: Although I guess you could take the number of US cases on the JH site (1,323) and divide by number of tests on the CDC site (11,079) and come up with a rough estimate of percentage of positive results (approx 12%). Not sure if that is entirely accurate though.


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Posted: March 13, 2020, 4:52 AM Post
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I don’t travel much, but have seen a few articles suggesting travel insurance doesn’t cover pandemic. Then what the heck does it cover? I thought it was supposed to protect individuals who saved up to take a ‘trip of a lifetime’ from this exact situation.


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Posted: March 13, 2020, 6:14 AM Post
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nodakfan17 said:
I don’t travel much, but have seen a few articles suggesting travel insurance doesn’t cover pandemic. Then what the heck does it cover? I thought it was supposed to protect individuals who saved up to take a ‘trip of a lifetime’ from this exact situation.

You actually have to be sick and/or be a high-risk person and have doctor's orders not to travel. Or be hospitalized, have a funeral for an immediate family member, be ordered by your employer not to travel, etc. You have to be legitimately unable to travel.

Travel insurance doesn't cover fear, and that's what this is right now - fear. If proper precautions are taken and you are a low risk person (relatively young, healthy, no underlying health conditions), the risk to you is low and the effects of the virus are minimal.

As others have said, the risk isn't to most people, it's spreading it to the small population of high-risk people.


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Posted: March 13, 2020, 6:27 AM Post
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I think part of the issue is...everything is closed, so whatever you are traveling for may not be happening. I sure would like my insurance to cover that.


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And the other issues is that when travel is restricted because you're advised not to travel because you're high risk or ordered not to by a governmental travel ban, it seems more than fair to expect that occurance to be covered by insurance.


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Posted: March 13, 2020, 6:50 AM Post
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LouisEly said:
nodakfan17 said:
I don’t travel much, but have seen a few articles suggesting travel insurance doesn’t cover pandemic. Then what the heck does it cover? I thought it was supposed to protect individuals who saved up to take a ‘trip of a lifetime’ from this exact situation.

You actually have to be sick and/or be a high-risk person and have doctor's orders not to travel. Or be hospitalized, have a funeral for an immediate family member, be ordered by your employer not to travel, etc. You have to be legitimately unable to travel.

Travel insurance doesn't cover fear, and that's what this is right now - fear. If proper precautions are taken and you are a low risk person (relatively young, healthy, no underlying health conditions), the risk to you is low and the effects of the virus are minimal.

As others have said, the risk isn't to most people, it's spreading it to the small population of high-risk people.


I disagree with this a lot. I have a really high threshold for bowing to this sort of thing. I've traveled despite warnings through numerous situations like this and "terror alerts" a few summers ago when people were abandoning Europe at a feverish pace. Yes, it's unlikely that a member of the low-risk population will die but that doesn't say anything about the 70 year old on your flight, the numerous people you come in contact with, or the fact that once you come back home your kids go back to school, and you go back to work, and you spread this thing like wildfire. That you can carry it for weeks and never experience real symptoms is pretty scary.

This will sound harsh, but I believe that right now, until we know more about this thing, traveling is really selfish and irresponsible. I'm bummed my spring break vacation is over but I am risking exposing local schools to this needlessly.

The airlines are bending a lot of their policies to issue refunds and waive fees. There are two sides of stupidity here; those buying 16 packs of Charmin and those pretending this isn't serious - not that you were doing that.

Edit: So maybe we don't really disagree, but I think there's more to this than just fear.


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Posted: March 13, 2020, 7:20 AM Post
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Had training this week and we practiced handcuffing foam batons because we weren't supposed to touch each other. It was recognized by all that if we're going to be passing the foam batons between each other, we may as well just go hands-on because there's no difference.

I joked to the boss' boss' boss that we'll have to shut down all festivals in State Parks, who responded "We're looking into that and it'll probably happen."


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Posted: March 13, 2020, 11:06 AM Post
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I heard that there were people that bought up as much of the toilet paper supply as they could. They were spotted in Germantown trying to sell it. It is believed they were from some of the inner sections of Milwaukee.


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Posted: March 13, 2020, 11:14 AM Post
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I heard that there were people that bought up as much of the toilet paper supply as they could. They were spotted in Germantown trying to sell it. It is believed they were from some of the inner sections of Milwaukee.


Whether or not this is true it's laughably stupid. If I run out I will wipe my rear with a cloth and machine wash the cloth. My kids were in cloth diapers and we survived basically that way for a long time.


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