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Posted: February 06, 2020, 8:04 AM Post
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I'm not understanding two recent news stories regarding the Coronavirus in Wisconsin. Yesterday, the first documented case in Wisconsin was reported in Madison. If I understand correctly, the person went directly from the plane to the hospital. The hospital confirmed it was the coronavirus and then released the patient to their home where they are under "self-quarantine". However, there is also a Wisconsin family that was visiting China and had a long wait until they were allowed to leave China with several other people that were also visiting China. These people landed in the U.S. yesterday and are all being quarantined for 2 weeks before they can even go home.

So, the person who we know has the virus is allowed to go home and is trusted to self-quarantine while the people who just visited China and have not shown any signs yet of the virus have to be quarantined for 2 weeks before even being allowed to go home? I'm not an expert by any means on infectious diseases so I'm sure there is something that I'm just not understanding about this.


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Posted: February 06, 2020, 8:51 AM Post
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Patrick425 said:
I'm not understanding two recent news stories regarding the Coronavirus in Wisconsin. Yesterday, the first documented case in Wisconsin was reported in Madison. If I understand correctly, the person went directly from the plane to the hospital. The hospital confirmed it was the coronavirus and then released the patient to their home where they are under "self-quarantine". However, there is also a Wisconsin family that was visiting China and had a long wait until they were allowed to leave China with several other people that were also visiting China. These people landed in the U.S. yesterday and are all being quarantined for 2 weeks before they can even go home.

So, the person who we know has the virus is allowed to go home and is trusted to self-quarantine while the people who just visited China and have not shown any signs yet of the virus have to be quarantined for 2 weeks before even being allowed to go home? I'm not an expert by any means on infectious diseases so I'm sure there is something that I'm just not understanding about this.


I have read that you can have the virus without showing symptoms for 10 days. I am guessing they are having them stay there so that they arent walking around possibly infecting others. Whereas the one that knows they are sick should obviously not be going anywhere. I agree with you though. Seems weird.


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Posted: February 06, 2020, 9:50 AM Post
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Yes. I don't disagree with quarantining of the group of passengers from China. It's the inconsistency of how the quarantines are applied that I'm not understanding.


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Posted: February 06, 2020, 12:01 PM Post
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It is a bit odd but I wonder if the self quarantine is because it is a confirmed case vs just being possible. I could see how people who feel perfectly fine might be more tempted to violate quarantine vs someone who knows full well they have it. Not to mention those who might be tempted to visit the person would be less inclined to visit someone who is sick vs someone who merely might get sick later on.

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Posted: February 06, 2020, 1:49 PM Post
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I wonder how that self quarantine works. Do they just order delivery food, have the driver leave it on the porch? And get other necessities like eggs, tp, and beer delivered?


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Posted: February 07, 2020, 2:52 PM Post
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I made a mistake. I answered a foreign call and spoke. After 15secs I said delete from your call list. I figured out I could block the number on my phone so I did. In the last 50mins I have been bombarded with at least 15 calls at least 6 different area codes and 13 of them different numbers overall. The call I sat listening I overheard, I don't what do you call them? My cousin referred to them as towel heads. Indian? Just picture the sound of Apu is it from Simpsons? that gas station character. I have no clue what their purpose is by calling constantly when they don't respond nor leave a message.


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Posted: February 07, 2020, 3:54 PM Post
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I made a mistake. I answered a foreign call and spoke. After 15secs I said delete from your call list. I figured out I could block the number on my phone so I did. In the last 50mins I have been bombarded with at least 15 calls at least 6 different area codes and 13 of them different numbers overall. The call I sat listening I overheard, I don't what do you call them? My cousin referred to them as towel heads. Indian? Just picture the sound of Apu is it from Simpsons? that gas station character. I have no clue what their purpose is by calling constantly when they don't respond nor leave a message.


They are all scam calls sometimes I like answering them with a soundboard. Can be some fun times Duke Nukem and Sling Blade are the greatest. Otherwise if you have an Android phone you can get the app robokiller which will block the number but will also use an answer bot that keeps them on the line basically wasting their time.


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Posted: February 07, 2020, 5:06 PM Post
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I made a mistake. I answered a foreign call and spoke. After 15secs I said delete from your call list. I figured out I could block the number on my phone so I did. In the last 50mins I have been bombarded with at least 15 calls at least 6 different area codes and 13 of them different numbers overall. The call I sat listening I overheard, I don't what do you call them? My cousin referred to them as towel heads. Indian? Just picture the sound of Apu is it from Simpsons? that gas station character. I have no clue what their purpose is by calling constantly when they don't respond nor leave a message.

This is one thing that I don't understand how the telecom companies haven't developed technology to counter. The calls are not coming from the U.S., and that can't be that hard to detect even if it is through a VPN - there has to be a list of VPN IP numbers somewhere that it can block. Maybe it's such a cutthroat business that they don't have the margins and profits to put into the research, but you'd think that if they developed that technology they'd capture the market overnight.

The funny thing is that a few months ago I realized that if your call ID shows an 800/888/866 number, it is probably a legitimate business trying to get a hold of you for a legitimate reason.


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Posted: February 07, 2020, 6:27 PM Post
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brewcrewdue80 said:
I made a mistake. I answered a foreign call and spoke. After 15secs I said delete from your call list. I figured out I could block the number on my phone so I did. In the last 50mins I have been bombarded with at least 15 calls at least 6 different area codes and 13 of them different numbers overall. The call I sat listening I overheard, I don't what do you call them? My cousin referred to them as towel heads. Indian? Just picture the sound of Apu is it from Simpsons? that gas station character. I have no clue what their purpose is by calling constantly when they don't respond nor leave a message.

This is one thing that I don't understand how the telecom companies haven't developed technology to counter. The calls are not coming from the U.S., and that can't be that hard to detect even if it is through a VPN - there has to be a list of VPN IP numbers somewhere that it can block. Maybe it's such a cutthroat business that they don't have the margins and profits to put into the research, but you'd think that if they developed that technology they'd capture the market overnight.

The funny thing is that a few months ago I realized that if your call ID shows an 800/888/866 number, it is probably a legitimate business trying to get a hold of you for a legitimate reason.


There are already apps out there that block these calls. Though new numbers pop up all the time and need to be added to the database so they are blocked. Some apps are free but most require a yearly or monthly subscription. Each phone carrier AT&T, Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile have basic free apps to block these calls again you will have to add the new numbers as they come in to the block list.


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Posted: February 07, 2020, 7:15 PM Post
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Didn’t they just pass something so the carriers had the ability to block it before we even get the calls?


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Posted: February 07, 2020, 7:22 PM Post
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Get this. I got a call from my aunts number a few weeks ago. She never calls me, so I obviously answer. It was one of those scam lines that just so happened to pick a number that was my aunts...


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Posted: February 07, 2020, 9:33 PM Post
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The numbers show an area code that is in the US. From that hour it was Salt Lake city, Columbus, New York, State of Arizona, and St. Louis upon looking up where the area codes belonged. Salt Lake City, St Louis, and Columbus were 3 times each but the 7 digit numbers were all different.


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Posted: February 07, 2020, 11:04 PM Post
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Get this. I got a call from my aunts number a few weeks ago. She never calls me, so I obviously answer. It was one of those scam lines that just so happened to pick a number that was my aunts...

That's the thing - the numbers that show up aren't actually the number they are calling from. They are the either the "name" that is programmed into caller ID to look like a number (duh - don't allow more than 3 numbers in a call ID name, simple rule to enforce) or some other made up number. Just scan the text and if it is a number that matches a legitimate phone number, or if it even looks like a phone number, kill it.

It shouldn't be on 3rd party apps to detect this. You can program the number into the app, but they just change it, and like this example, it could be a legitimate number. The phone companies can do this, it's just that they don't want to spend the money because cellular service is such a cut-throat, low-margin business.


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Posted: February 08, 2020, 10:52 AM Post
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I have gotten several calls that had my name and number. I only have a landline. It has gotten to the point I never answer the phone. My friends know to leave a message and I will call them back or answer while they are leaving the message. If that happens, I let them know that they are being recorded, so keep it clean(:-).


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Posted: February 09, 2020, 1:13 PM Post
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Oh sure, two+ years and absolutely no other single person shows up to my small church. But once I accept a new job three hours away and will be moving in a week or two, *that's* when a pretty single person moves here and starts attending.


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I only have a landline. It has gotten to the point I never answer the phone.


I wish I could just not pick up. I have a landline dedicated to dispatch and co-workers calling me in for an emergency (cell service is nonexistent here), so when scammers and charities call I always end up rushing to the phone.


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Posted: February 09, 2020, 1:17 PM Post
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I recently joined a facebook group that interests me. Last night, I made a post, hung around for a half hour or so reading responses from people, and then logged off and went to bed.

This morning, I wake up and see that my post has been deleted. An admin made a comment that said, "I gave you four hours to edit your post and you ignored it, so I deleted your post. Feel free to re-post with the proper edits."

Okay, first of all, I never saw any comment, notification, or ANYTHING from this admin. Secondly, I was SLEEPING! If he gave me four hours during the overnight hours, how the heck am I supposed to respond and make an edit? I thought it was very unfair and just a tiny bit of iron-fisted power trip by that admin.

I know, first world problems . . . .

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Posted: February 09, 2020, 2:23 PM Post
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If you have an iPhone, go to Settings >Phone>Silence Unknown Callers and toggle it On. Only calls from your saved contacts will ring through. Phone won't ring for unknown callers but their numbers still show up in your call history and they can leave a voicemail message.

I know this doesn't help 100% of users out there if it's part of your job to answer calls, but it works.


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Posted: February 09, 2020, 9:12 PM Post
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brewcrewdue80 said:
I made a mistake. I answered a foreign call and spoke. After 15secs I said delete from your call list. I figured out I could block the number on my phone so I did. In the last 50mins I have been bombarded with at least 15 calls at least 6 different area codes and 13 of them different numbers overall. The call I sat listening I overheard, I don't what do you call them? My cousin referred to them as towel heads. Indian? Just picture the sound of Apu is it from Simpsons? that gas station character. I have no clue what their purpose is by calling constantly when they don't respond nor leave a message.


We could do without racial slurs around here, thanks.


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Posted: February 09, 2020, 10:48 PM Post
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I am not old (35) but I feel ancient when I hear memes/phrases that make no sense to me. Epstein didnt kill himself, the woman yelling at the cat. I feel so out of touch.


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Posted: February 10, 2020, 12:07 PM Post
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Too many people getting sick, especially in our household. Was home Friday due to one kid being ill, now after a healthy weekend, both kids sick again this morning with apparent stomach bug. Both are doing better now than this morning, at least. In my youth, my parents probably would have sent me to school anyway, but we're trying to do what the school advises to not spread stuff around.

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