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Posted: March 26, 2020, 9:36 AM Post
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New Oxford study suggests millions of people may have already built up coronavirus immunity.
https://news.yahoo.com/oxford-study-sug ... 00162.html


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Posted: March 26, 2020, 9:40 AM Post
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RoCoBrewfan said:
I went to work today, the first day in Wisconsin of the "Mandated lockdown" and the traffic on the beltline and interstate was absurd. Because so many businesses that are absolutely not essential (Joanne fabrics! Best Buy!) are asking for and receiving exemptions, there are still a lot of people wandering out and about like it's business as usual.

Really, I drive the beltline every day for work it and has been one of the few positives. Usually bumper to bumper to and from work and has been smooth sailing for the last week or so.


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Posted: March 26, 2020, 9:41 AM Post
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There is so much noise in the data right now it's really hard to model anything with any degree of accuracy.

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Posted: March 26, 2020, 9:59 AM Post
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A Florida man is claiming the "game changing" drug touted by Trump cured him overnight. I haven't seen much outside of that on that cure.


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A Florida man is claiming the "game changing" drug touted by Trump cured him overnight. I haven't seen much outside of that on that cure.


Florida Man is probably already immune to it.


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Posted: March 26, 2020, 10:57 AM Post
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MrTPlush said:
A Florida man is claiming the "game changing" drug touted by Trump cured him overnight. I haven't seen much outside of that on that cure.


Florida Man is probably already immune to it.


No, he wasn't. He was quite sick and already said his good byes to family. The drug is Hydroxychloroquine, we've been talking about it a lot. Too early to tell, but doctors that have been using it have had really positive results. Small sample though, like if Sogard was hitting .500 after the first week of the season. Larger studies are being done in US and other countries, we'll know more relatively soon.


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Posted: March 26, 2020, 11:13 AM Post
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Florida Man is a meme and a joke. I wasn't being serious.


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There has been a controlled study run by a VERY high profile doctor in France with hydroxychlorique with 40/40 patients full recovery. Chinese data is now backing this up.

We need to end the one size fits all unconstitutional house arrest, send resources to hard hit zones and begin resuming life after next week.


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Posted: March 26, 2020, 6:42 PM Post
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There has been a controlled study run by a VERY high profile doctor in France with hydroxychlorique with 40/40 patients full recovery. Chinese data is now backing this up.

We need to end the one size fits all unconstitutional house arrest, send resources to hard hit zones and begin resuming life after next week.


Link? That's different numbers than the ones I saw from a French study.

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Posted: March 26, 2020, 7:25 PM Post
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There has been a controlled study run by a VERY high profile doctor in France with hydroxychlorique with 40/40 patients full recovery. Chinese data is now backing this up.

We need to end the one size fits all unconstitutional house arrest, send resources to hard hit zones and begin resuming life after next week.


Nobody is under house arrest. The pool and dart store is still open. Best Buy is open. Lots of places that shouldn't be open are open.


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Posted: March 26, 2020, 8:58 PM Post
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The survival rates are based on known cases, obviously because you can't know who has it without a test. But certainly there are lots of folks who must have it, never went to a hospital and eventually recovered. Based on some best-estimates-from-smart-people numbers, the death rate from this would end up being a lot lower than the flu. Granted, it does seem the death rate from the elderly and already-sick is super high, as well as the rate that one corona person gives it to 2.5 people while the flu is 1.3.


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Posted: March 27, 2020, 7:17 AM Post
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superfly said:
There has been a controlled study run by a VERY high profile doctor in France with hydroxychlorique with 40/40 patients full recovery. Chinese data is now backing this up.

We need to end the one size fits all unconstitutional house arrest, send resources to hard hit zones and begin resuming life after next week.


Here's your house arrest in Chicago:

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Posted: March 27, 2020, 7:21 AM Post
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I read about a 21 year old who was posting videos about how she isnt going to get it, yadda yadda yadda, she has it now. Now shes trying to tell people how painful it can be and basically said she didnt care and her and her friends would meet up and go about life as normal. Now shes regretting that. Shocker.


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Posted: March 27, 2020, 8:26 AM Post
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superfly said:
There has been a controlled study run by a VERY high profile doctor in France with hydroxychlorique with 40/40 patients full recovery. Chinese data is now backing this up.

We need to end the one size fits all unconstitutional house arrest, send resources to hard hit zones and begin resuming life after next week.


Here's your house arrest in Chicago:

Not any more - they shut down the lakefront, river, and 606 trails (and all parks) yesterday afternoon.

Yet, when I went to pick up dinner at 5:30pm there were 15-20 people piling into a city bus at the corner of Division and Ashland with not a foot between them. Yeah, let's shut down the running trails but let people cram into a city bus. Which do we think is more likely to lead to more infections?


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Posted: March 27, 2020, 8:31 AM Post
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Yeah shutting down the lakefront was dumb. If someone runs or bikes past me and gets within six feet I still feel pretty good about my social distancing. Those photos are deceiving too - long lens compresses distance making it look like people are closer than they really are.

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006


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Posted: March 27, 2020, 8:44 AM Post
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I'm aware of the shutdown thanks to Lightfoot sending me an alert on my phone yesterday. Just pointing out that there are still tons of people out and about. The parks near us on the southside are packed whenever the sun comes out. I'm also near Chinatown, so there are a lot of people who do not understand what social distancing is. They have tape on the floor at the grocery store to indicate how far apart to stand and about 90% of people get it, but there are still enough who will just stand right behind me and look confused when I ask them to back up.


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Posted: March 27, 2020, 9:13 AM Post
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I think the points that multiple people are getting across is that terms like house arrest are Hyperbole and as much an overreaction as anything else.


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Posted: March 27, 2020, 11:33 AM Post
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Please be cautious and skeptical about that French study, or really any one study promising a miracle cure. There is criticism of the PIs methods, history of data manipulation, and questions about the speed and impartiality of the peer review. The two drugs in question have side effects and are needed by patients with other conditions; they should only be taken under a doctor's care after their efficacy is firmly established or if the situation is truly dire.

I would dearly love there to be a promising treatment, and it is of course still possible that this is it, but we haven't done the science yet to be sure. It's irresponsible for politicians or TV stations to suggest that people go out and buy the stuff for self-prescribed use.


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Posted: March 27, 2020, 7:20 PM Post
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking ... oronavirus

This is fantastic news.


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Posted: March 27, 2020, 7:35 PM Post
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I don't know whether to put this here or in the "Bugging You" thread, but I'm going with it here.

We start online teaching Monday, doing a week of virtual PD then instruction the week after. The district sent out an email yesterday with a Q&A, and it included this:

WHEN WORKING REMOTELY, DO I NEED TO SECURE CHILDCARE OUTSIDE OF MY HOME?
The expectation is that you secure childcare. Whether the childcare is outside of your home or in your home is up to you. You cannot watch your children and work at the same time. Employees who are working from home can flex their hours within the workday. You may be eligible to apply for FFCRA leave time if you are unable to secure childcare.

So I am somehow supposed to secure childcare either inside or outside of my home in a handful of days? And that childcare is supposed to lead my own kids' online learning with them? And I'm either supposed to bring someone to my house or send my kids somewhere during the safer-at-home order? I can online teach with my kids around. It may not be perfect teaching, but my kids are old enough to be able to do things on their own for periods at a time. Totally ridiculous.


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