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COVID-19 aftermath: What things will change forever?

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Posted: June 17, 2020, 1:12 PM Post
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jerichoholicninja said:
I see a lot of commercials about being "quarantined" and how whatever product is being advertised can help you through it and Comedy Central is running these PSA's with comedians telling you to stay home and stay safe or whatever buzz phrase. These seem incredibly dated and irrelevant to me already.


I love Comedy Central, but who is their audience? Even though I'm a moderate conservative, I would argue they test well among 20-45 year old males, primarily left-leaning, and heavily on the coasts or big cities. Given that these are the areas with major issues with COVID, I think their PSA's are probably appropriate


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Posted: June 17, 2020, 1:14 PM Post
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Right. For weed specific though it doesn't make sense to have this big blocker up for weed when alcohol doesn't. Weed isn't even addictive like alcohol.


The weed not being addictive thing has pretty much been debunked....people can be addicted. Anecdotally, I know more people that NEED weed than alcohol. The difference is that it doesn't affect their lives and personal relationships as much.


I think it's like 1 in 10 get addicted (something like that).

And it makes sense that people need weed as many use it like a daily medication.

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Posted: June 17, 2020, 1:55 PM Post
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I figured Cheech and Chong debunked the "weed not addictive" thing in the 70s! [laughing]


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Posted: June 17, 2020, 2:32 PM Post
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DHonks said:
Right. For weed specific though it doesn't make sense to have this big blocker up for weed when alcohol doesn't. Weed isn't even addictive like alcohol.


The weed not being addictive thing has pretty much been debunked....people can be addicted. Anecdotally, I know more people that NEED weed than alcohol. The difference is that it doesn't affect their lives and personal relationships as much.


I think it's like 1 in 10 get addicted (something like that).

And it makes sense that people need weed as many use it like a daily medication.


Nobody knows % of addiction. If it is 10%, that's a lot of stoners addicted. And it's for "medication" rigggght. Everyone I've known that's addicted from college to present were not exactly using it medicinally.

Anti-marijuanna is not a sexy field of study, so there's not a lot of thorough studies on addiction and for that matter harm that comes from regular use. Until there's a lot more research done, I'm going to go with my current assumption. When you ask a stone a question and it takes 5 minutes to respond, it's probably not too good for the ol' thinking machine.


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Posted: June 17, 2020, 3:16 PM Post
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1/10:

https://www.cdc.gov/marijuana/faqs/mari ... ction.html

Stoners are addicts. Possible you know a lot of addicts. I know a lot of people that smoke (I don't personally) and none of them are stoners.

In some states, Doctors can give prescriptions for weed nowadays. I think that counts as medicinal.

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I know someone whose last name is "Stoner". He has never done marijuana either. Unfortunate name! [smile]


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Posted: June 17, 2020, 4:51 PM Post
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I figured Cheech and Chong debunked the "weed not addictive" thing in the 70s! [laughing]

"Hey, I don't need no marijuana, man... and I don't need no acid, man...

'Cause I'm hooked on downers." (Thud)


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Posted: June 18, 2020, 6:30 AM Post
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DHonks said:
Right. For weed specific though it doesn't make sense to have this big blocker up for weed when alcohol doesn't. Weed isn't even addictive like alcohol.


The weed not being addictive thing has pretty much been debunked....people can be addicted. Anecdotally, I know more people that NEED weed than alcohol. The difference is that it doesn't affect their lives and personal relationships as much.

Or, you know, businesses could move beyond the "marijuana bad" boogeyman from the 1960's and get with the times.


Why? So their insurance premiums can skyrocket? Can you imagine someone driving a forklift with weed in their system? Obese individuals hurt business profitability and rob from their coworkers by raising premiums. Same for smokers, since it costs 5-6 times more to insure a smoker. A huge amount of workers could put themselves and their employers at greater risk, hence why drug testing is required. As a teacher, if I'm suspected of being intoxicated or under the influence, I will be terminated on the spot and my union won't defend me. This goes for most types of jobs in the US.


Can you imagine someone being drunk on the job and driving a fork lift?

Oh the humanity. What happens with insurance premiums with those huge risks?

This idea that "If we don't test for weed, everyone can just smoke pot at work" is a ridiculous strawman.

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Posted: June 18, 2020, 6:32 AM Post
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1/10:

https://www.cdc.gov/marijuana/faqs/mari ... ction.html

Stoners are addicts. Possible you know a lot of addicts. I know a lot of people that smoke (I don't personally) and none of them are stoners.

In some states, Doctors can give prescriptions for weed nowadays. I think that counts as medicinal.


It's not like the Brewers very recently had a top prospect almost kicked out of baseball because he was self medicating with marijuana to prevent seizures or anything.

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Posted: June 18, 2020, 8:48 AM Post
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DHonks said:
Right. For weed specific though it doesn't make sense to have this big blocker up for weed when alcohol doesn't. Weed isn't even addictive like alcohol.


The weed not being addictive thing has pretty much been debunked....people can be addicted. Anecdotally, I know more people that NEED weed than alcohol. The difference is that it doesn't affect their lives and personal relationships as much.

Or, you know, businesses could move beyond the "marijuana bad" boogeyman from the 1960's and get with the times.


Why? So their insurance premiums can skyrocket? Can you imagine someone driving a forklift with weed in their system? Obese individuals hurt business profitability and rob from their coworkers by raising premiums. Same for smokers, since it costs 5-6 times more to insure a smoker. A huge amount of workers could put themselves and their employers at greater risk, hence why drug testing is required. As a teacher, if I'm suspected of being intoxicated or under the influence, I will be terminated on the spot and my union won't defend me. This goes for most types of jobs in the US.


Can you imagine someone being drunk on the job and driving a fork lift?

Oh the humanity. What happens with insurance premiums with those huge risks?

This idea that "If we don't test for weed, everyone can just smoke pot at work" is a ridiculous strawman.


Alcohol is pretty obvious to be aware or. It’s easy to test for. Why are you defending weed by comparing it to alcohol instead of saying both are major risks that a company shouldn’t tolerate


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Posted: June 18, 2020, 9:24 AM Post
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Because one is regulated and the other is let go. People are not denied jobs if they drank alcohol within a month of applying. Logically, alcohol should be as regulated as weed is now. Or weed should be looked the other way on like we do alcohol. Either way is sound logic, but to treat one as this big deal and the other as not is not good logic.

But this outdated notion that if someone uses weed it means they must do it all the time because it's so bad/evil. That's essentially what the tests are presuming. When the reality is something like that is way more likely with alcohol. I've seen people who are whipped up on this issue say things like "so legalize and now everyone is high all the time, teachers, nurses, dental assistants etc". The reality is a huge chunk of normal people you interact with now are regular weed users and you don't know it (they're not high all day long, just like casual drinkers aren't drunk all day long), it's so easy to get and common that legalizing would essentially change nothing. People who want to do it are currently doing it. And if you're not around younger people much, it is a huge percentage and I don't think we're seeing some big problem from it. And second, why are you not worried that everyone is drunk all the time?

Also I believe it is factual that it is not physically addictive.


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Posted: June 18, 2020, 9:39 AM Post
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Alcohol is pretty obvious to be aware or. It’s easy to test for. Why are you defending weed by comparing it to alcohol instead of saying both are major risks that a company shouldn’t tolerate


That's the entire point. Not testing for weed doesn't mean a company has to tolerate people showing up to work baked out of their minds.

Just because someone enjoys having a gummy and listening to the Grateful Dead on their Friday nights shouldn't deny them employment, the same way that if someone enjoys getting drunk at Miller Park shouldn't.

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More on topic: My wife and I ate out last night for the first time in forever (way beyond COVID). The experience was a bit odd and made me wonder what we would've done if we didn't have a smart phone. The waitress drops down a "coaster" with a 2D bar code on it for the menu. Doesn't say anything about it. Evidently, I don't use those scanners often as my phone (~ 1 year old) didn't have one. I previously had the menu up on my phone (as we waited for a table), so I never bothered with it.

Then for the bill, I get a similar paper with a 2D code and she says you can pay on the phone and runs off. So, this time I downloaded the scanner and paid the bill.

Not to be all "conspiracy theorist", but I do wonder what companies will be taking advantage of COVID to further their tools/services where we will be forced into using something via legislation (purposely or inadvertently).


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More on topic: My wife and I ate out last night for the first time in forever (way beyond COVID). The experience was a bit odd and made me wonder what we would've done if we didn't have a smart phone. The waitress drops down a "coaster" with a 2D bar code on it for the menu. Doesn't say anything about it. Evidently, I don't use those scanners often as my phone (~ 1 year old) didn't have one. I previously had the menu up on my phone (as we waited for a table), so I never bothered with it.

Then for the bill, I get a similar paper with a 2D code and she says you can pay on the phone and runs off. So, this time I downloaded the scanner and paid the bill.

Not to be all "conspiracy theorist", but I do wonder what companies will be taking advantage of COVID to further their tools/services where we will be forced into using something via legislation (purposely or inadvertently).


Paper and coins will be a thing of the past soon. The major banks have been pushing for this and with the blockchain now becoming more and more prevalent it shouldn't take all that long to move away from paper and coins.

FINTECH is a newish field in the financial industry. If you are looking for a job or want to make a career move take a FINTECH bootcamp as soon as possible.


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Went to the Food Truck Festival in Thiensville tonight. Lots of people. 90%-ish with no masks.

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Posted: June 19, 2020, 7:11 AM Post
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Paper and coins will be a thing of the past soon. The major banks have been pushing for this and with the blockchain now becoming more and more prevalent it shouldn't take all that long to move away from paper and coins.

FINTECH is a newish field in the financial industry. If you are looking for a job or want to make a career move take a FINTECH bootcamp as soon as possible.


I rarely used cash before (carry some paper, never coins), but I was surprised at how I wasn't even given the option to pay by CC. She just dropped off the barcode and bolted. I'm sure if I objected, she would've taken my CC, but the big pivot in direction took me by surprise.

I've avoided payments and my phone simply for security reasons in the past, though phones are getting more secure now. I'm still not 100% comfortable tying everything (two mode authentications, password storage, financial info) to my phone.


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Posted: June 19, 2020, 7:22 AM Post
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I rarely used cash before (carry some paper, never coins), but I was surprised at how I wasn't even given the option to pay by CC. She just dropped off the barcode and bolted. I'm sure if I objected, she would've taken my CC, but the big pivot in direction took me by surprise.

I've avoided payments and my phone simply for security reasons in the past, though phones are getting more secure now. I'm still not 100% comfortable tying everything (two mode authentications, password storage, financial info) to my phone.


Two form authentication should be enabled on everything. Even with a strong password that can be hacked or stolen if a company has poor cyber security. Even companies or organizations with good or great cybersecurity will get hacked or have something stolen from them at some point. Two form authentication is another barrier for hackers to have to get through.


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Yeah, but if your phone is your 2nd authentication and it has automatic logins to your bank and other passwords...

Just for the record, I don't keep bank nor CC info on my phone. But pay by phone starts pushing us that direction.


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Posted: June 19, 2020, 7:46 AM Post
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Yeah, but if your phone is your 2nd authentication and it has automatic logins to your bank and other passwords...

Just for the record, I don't keep bank nor CC info on my phone. But pay by phone starts pushing us that direction.


I don't believe CC# is stored on the phone. At least it's not with Google Pay (so they say).

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