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The 2017 MLB Draft Thread (#9 Pick + #34 & #46)

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Posted: May 19, 2017, 3:08 PM Post
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And That said:
Updated mock draft from MLB Pipeline.

Brewers pass on Beck, Haseley, Faedo, and Baz still on the board, amongst others I would take over the Brewers' pick.

Also noteworthy is Mayo has Nick Pratto going to the Braves at #5. He hasn't been mentioned much as a possible Brewers pick, but he'll probably be there at #9, and I'm sure the Brewers are looking at him. Taking a HS first baseman isn't that exciting of a pick there, but Pratto would also be a top prospect as a LHP, and is sort of a proto-McKay.
I'll go to hell if the Yankees have Rutherford and Beck fall in their laps two years in a row.


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Posted: May 22, 2017, 6:53 AM Post
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homer said:
Brewers drafted pitchers for the sake of drafting pitchers a number of times. Pirates did the same thing. BPA.



Such as? What years?


Heckathorn, Bradley, Jungmann, Arnett, Fredrickson

I think Jungmann and Bradley in particular were drafted for need. I think Melvin drafted guys he thought would get to the bigs quickly.

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Posted: May 22, 2017, 7:03 AM Post
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The crew has missed on some pithing in the past but that does not mean they should shy away from that in this draft.


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Posted: May 22, 2017, 8:43 AM Post
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Another player I really like in the #34/#46 area is Georgia high school outfielder Drew Waters. Switch-hitter who isn't overwhelming with the bat, but he seems like a good bet to get on-base enough where his best talents (defense and speed) can be put to good use.

Has anybody heard if the Brewers have interest in Stanford RHP-Tristan Beck at #34/#46? I know they had drafted him previously in 2015 and Ray Montgomery was with the Brewers at that time. I've also read somewhere that teams might be looking at Beck as a late first round below-slot candidate, so even though he seems to be grading lower (Baseball America has him at #54, MLB has him at #52) there is a chance he is picked ahead of #34.


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Posted: May 22, 2017, 8:43 AM Post
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New aggregate ranking with a few updates:

1. Hunter Greene, HS, RHP/SS
2. Brendan McKay, 4yr, LHP/1B/OF
3. Kyle Wright, 4yr, RHP
4. Royce Lewis, HS, OF
5. JB Bukauskas, 4yr, RHP
6. MacKenzie Gore, HS, LHP
7. Jeren Kendall, 4yr, OF
8. Austin Beck, HS, OF
9. Pavin Smith, 4yr, 1B
10. Alex Faedo, 4yr, RHP
11. DL Hall, HS, LHP
12. Nick Pratto, HS, 1B/LHP
13. Jo Adell, HS, OF
14. Adam Haseley, 4yr, OF
15. Seth Romero, 4yr, LHP
16. Griffin Canning, 4yr, RHP
17. Sam Carlson, HS, RHP
18. Trevor Rogers, HS, LHP
19. Shane Baz, HS, RHP
20. David Peterson, 4yr, LHP
21. Keston Hiura, 4yr, 2B/OF
22. Tanner Houck, 4yr, RHP
23. Hans Crouse, HS, RHP
24. Jake Burger, 4yr, 3B
25. Logan Warmoth, 4yr, SS
26. Brendon Little, JC, RHP
27. Heliot Ramos, HS, OF
28. Alex Lange, 4yr, RHP
29. Bubba Thompson, HS, OF
30. Nick Allen, HS, SS
31. Matt Sauer, HS, RHP
32. Nate Pearson, JC, RHP
33. Evan White, 4yr, 1B/OF
34. Blayne Enlow, HS, RHP
35. Drew Waters, HS, OF
36. Wil Crowe, 4yr, RHP
37. Clarke Schmidt, 4yr, RHP
38. Quentin Holmes, HS, OF
39. Mark Vientos, HS, SS/3B
40. Garrett Mitchell, HS, OF

At the Brewers slots for the first five round, I currently have:
9. Pavin Smith, 4yr, 1B
34. Blayne Enlow, HS, RHP
46. Conner Uselton, HS, OF
84. Landon Leach, HS (Canada), RHP
114. Kyle Jacobsen, HS, OF
144. Jayson Gonzalez, HS, 3B


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Posted: May 22, 2017, 8:46 AM Post
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I'm kind of surprised Enlow is that high considering the last Baseball America list has him at #80. But I'd take him. Enlow at #34 and Waters at #35....those are probably my two favorites for that pick at #34.

And That...could you give me information as to where Stanford RHP-Tristan Beck slotted in the aggregate ranking?


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The latest BA list has Enlow at #27. This is from about 3 weeks ago.

I have Tristan Beck at #45.


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Posted: May 22, 2017, 8:57 AM Post
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I beg your pardon, turns out I was looking at the Baseball America list from March.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/20 ... gWLMSR7.97

Thanks for providing the ranking for Tristan Beck. It will be very interesting to see where he's drafted and how teams treat the slot value associated with him since he is a draft-eligible sophomore.


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Posted: May 22, 2017, 9:54 AM Post
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colbyjack said:

Interesting that Austin Beck and Jordon Adell are finding their way onto more and more mock draft at #9. Some really interesting stuff floating around right now. I still think one of the bigger college bats, Pavin Smith and Keston Hiura, may be the way to go based on pure value.


Can Keston Hiura really play 2nd base? What makes Pavin any different than his Virginia teammate last year, Matt Thaiss? Thaiss had just 16 strikeouts last year, and identical overall numbers. I don't think anyone would be all that excited to have Thaiss right now.

Thanks in advance!


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Posted: May 22, 2017, 10:34 AM Post
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From a few days ago, Jason Churchill have Brewers taking Baz at #9.


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Posted: May 22, 2017, 12:04 PM Post
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Interesting treatment of Mackenzie Gore versus Hunter Greene. If Gore somehow fell, which is highly unlikely, that would be amazing for the Brewers. Just what the doctor ordered.

http://eastvillagetimes.com/2017/05/mak ... ing-draft/


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Posted: May 22, 2017, 1:28 PM Post
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brewmann04 said:
The crew has missed on some pithing in the past but that does not mean they should shy away from that in this draft.


I don't disagree but don't take a pitcher simply because it's an organizational need. Take him if he's deserving of that slot in the draft.

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Posted: May 22, 2017, 5:09 PM Post
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Seriously our strength right now in the minors is pitching. That could change quickly, but pitching is hardly a need. I will say it till I'm blue in the face BPA!


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Posted: May 22, 2017, 5:47 PM Post
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Seriously our strength right now in the minors is pitching. That could change quickly, but pitching is hardly a need. I will say it till I'm blue in the face BPA!


BPA is totally correct as far as the draft goes, but that won't mean I might wince a little if we get Jeren Kendall at #9 and we don't make any trades this summer. ThassalottaOFers.

Plus, the MLB club picked up Broxton, Perez, Shaw, Thames, and Bandy for next to nothing, and they are all young (minus Thames) and are all producing like all-stars. It sure seems like pitching is once again at a premium league wide right now. Four years ago that wasn't the case, so maybe 4 years from now the cycle might switch back again. It's hard to say.


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Posted: May 22, 2017, 7:22 PM Post
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You do take the BPA but if pitching is close to a hitter you go with the arm.I however believe that DS if adding another bat will down the road trade that excess surpus for Pitching when we are ready to make a run


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Posted: May 22, 2017, 8:36 PM Post
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New mock from Taylor Blake Ward. Here's the Brewers bit.

Milwaukee Brewers - D.L. Hall, LHP, Valdosta HS (GA)

The Brewers are ready to play with the chips they have. Those chips include three top 50 picks, and sources say they're making deals left and right to go ever-so-slighly underslot with their first pick.
Mock 1.0: Pavin Smith
Mock 2.0: Jordon Adell


Interesting not a huge fan of the pick, but the fact that we're supposedly cutting deals is news to me.
http://www.scout.com/mlb/scouting/story/1779690-ward-mock-draft-3-0


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Oxy said:

BPA is totally correct as far as the draft goes, but that won't mean I might wince a little if we get Jeren Kendall at #9 and we don't make any trades this summer. ThassalottaOFers.

Plus, the MLB club picked up Broxton, Perez, Shaw, Thames, and Bandy for next to nothing, and they are all young (minus Thames) and are all producing like all-stars. It sure seems like pitching is once again at a premium league wide right now. Four years ago that wasn't the case, so maybe 4 years from now the cycle might switch back again. It's hard to say.
Yeah Adell and Kendall would be kind of disappointing. We already have players in our system that fit the mold of player they are. The only OFs I take with confidence are Beck and Smith (99% certain he wont' be at 9). I'm absolutely not against drafting a pitcher. I'm just saying we don't NEED too. I'd be shooting for the moon this draft tbh just sick of the "safe" picks.


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Posted: May 22, 2017, 9:27 PM Post
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New mock from Taylor Blake Ward. Here's the Brewers bit.

Milwaukee Brewers - D.L. Hall, LHP, Valdosta HS (GA)

The Brewers are ready to play with the chips they have. Those chips include three top 50 picks, and sources say they're making deals left and right to go ever-so-slighly underslot with their first pick.
Mock 1.0: Pavin Smith
Mock 2.0: Jordon Adell


Interesting not a huge fan of the pick, but the fact that we're supposedly cutting deals is news to me.
http://www.scout.com/mlb/scouting/story/1779690-ward-mock-draft-3-0


This is where I get confused. A guy like Tristan Beck may be available at 34, but he may/will demand a slot value of maybe the #10 pick in order to sign him? Since he can go back to Stanford next year? So we'll draft a guy who will sign for underslot at #9 who likely won't be available at #34, but enable us to keep more bonus pools signing money?


EDIT: I think I got most of the answers I was looking for in that other thread i bumped.

EXCEPT: Why is Tristan Beck eligible for the draft after his Soph year? I thought the rule was 3 yrs in school? Also, why aren't there more juniors who are drafted? It seems like most of the college guys are "4yr senior sign" guys. TIA.


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Posted: May 22, 2017, 9:58 PM Post
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Oxy said:
MilwaukeeBeers said:
New mock from Taylor Blake Ward. Here's the Brewers bit.

Milwaukee Brewers - D.L. Hall, LHP, Valdosta HS (GA)

The Brewers are ready to play with the chips they have. Those chips include three top 50 picks, and sources say they're making deals left and right to go ever-so-slighly underslot with their first pick.
Mock 1.0: Pavin Smith
Mock 2.0: Jordon Adell


Interesting not a huge fan of the pick, but the fact that we're supposedly cutting deals is news to me.
http://www.scout.com/mlb/scouting/story/1779690-ward-mock-draft-3-0



EXCEPT: Why is Tristan Beck eligible for the draft after his Soph year? I thought the rule was 3 yrs in school? Also, why aren't there more juniors who are drafted? It seems like most of the college guys are "4yr senior sign" guys. TIA.


Is Beck 21? college players become draft eligible if 21 by the draft. Sometimes scouts don't adequately scout these guys


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Posted: May 23, 2017, 2:31 AM Post
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If Ward knows something about Hall, that's not bad. Here's a pretty good scouting report if anyone is interested. Upside as a number 2 starter, southpaw with a good heater and impressive curveball. Not filled out but he's 18.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.crawfish ... os-marlins


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