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Offline  Luke Heimlich
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Posted: June 08, 2017, 10:26 PM Post
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Hopefully Brewers one of teams to take him off their board.

https://sports.yahoo.com/top-ranked-col ... 01741.html


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Online  Re: 2018 Draft Pick Discussion, Rounds 6-20
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Posted: June 05, 2018, 1:50 PM Post
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I saw Oregon St and my heart skipped a beat....

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006


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Posted: June 05, 2018, 1:54 PM Post
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Me too. Don't want any part of Heimlich.


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Posted: June 05, 2018, 2:00 PM Post
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yoyomayoma said:
Me too. Don't want any part of Heimlich.
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I don’t know, could be good clubhouse guy..... save his teammates from choking


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Posted: June 05, 2018, 2:01 PM Post
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yoyomayoma said:
Don't want any part of Heimlich.


Yup. Stay far away from this guy


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Posted: June 05, 2018, 2:01 PM Post
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YoungGeezy1 said:
yoyomayoma said:
Me too. Don't want any part of Heimlich.
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I don’t know, could be good clubhouse guy..... save his teammates from choking


*sad trombone


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Posted: June 05, 2018, 2:06 PM Post
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brooks_quichenick said:
yoyomayoma said:
Don't want any part of Heimlich.


Yup. Stay far away from this guy


What he did was horrid. There is no way anyone should condone that. But ... he was 15. Should the kid pay the rest of his life for his idiocy as a 15-year-old? Tough question ... but many would say he already is.

The kid has shown huge regret. I don't know that the team's system is in such a state that they couldn't use a 1st round talent who will sign cheap and is looking for redemption.


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Offline  Re: 2018 Draft Pick Discussion, Rounds 6-20
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Posted: June 05, 2018, 2:07 PM Post
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The PR hit will (rightfully) overshadow any potential benefit on the field.


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Offline  Re: 2018 Draft Pick Discussion, Rounds 6-20
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Posted: June 05, 2018, 2:09 PM Post
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Joey Meyer Bombs said:
brooks_quichenick said:
yoyomayoma said:
Don't want any part of Heimlich.


Yup. Stay far away from this guy


What he did was horrid. There is no way anyone should condone that. But ... he was 15. Should the kid pay the rest of his life for his idiocy as a 15-year-old? Tough question ... but many would say he already is.

The kid has shown huge regret. I don't know that the team's system is in such a state that they couldn't use a 1st round talent who will sign cheap and is looking for redemption.



15 is old enough to know that sexually abusing a 6 year-old is wrong. He shouldn't be allowed to play pro baseball at all in my opinion.


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Posted: June 05, 2018, 2:10 PM Post
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Besides my earlier tweet, the only thing I'm going to say about Heimlich is read this essay.


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Posted: June 05, 2018, 2:10 PM Post
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MillerParkSouth said:
The PR hit will (rightfully) overshadow any potential benefit on the field.


Maybe initially, but it would eventually wear over time.


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Offline  Re: 2018 Draft Pick Discussion, Rounds 6-20
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Posted: June 05, 2018, 2:19 PM Post
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And That said:
Besides my earlier tweet, the only thing I'm going to say about Heimlich is read this essay.


Thanks for sharing, heartbreaking read and I agree 100% with your tweet.


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Posted: June 05, 2018, 2:23 PM Post
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brooks_quichenick said:

15 is old enough to know that sexually abusing a 6 year-old is wrong. He shouldn't be allowed to play pro baseball at all in my opinion.


Perhaps. It's a tough question. Could be that the risk is too great for a team like the Brewers.


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Posted: June 05, 2018, 2:35 PM Post
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Joey Meyer Bombs said:
YoungGeezy1 said:
yoyomayoma said:
Me too. Don't want any part of Heimlich.
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I don’t know, could be good clubhouse guy..... save his teammates from choking


*sad trombone


Yikes, until I just read up on him, had no clue about him....makes name joke & good clubhouse guy a little less than desirable.

Ultimately there are two options in his situation if he did it or not & that is to plead not guilty, risk jury not believing you, & spend at least 3-5 years in jail/prison. Option two, you take the guilty plead that will wreck your life with offender list & either jail or probation for period of time. Sadly, I know someone that I grew up with, played sports, and was friends with in same situation. Never in million years did anyone think he could or would ever do something like that. Had an academic ride to Iowa St & promising life ahead of him. He called a meeting with all of us, told us the situation, that he didn’t do it but just couldn’t risk court not believing him & going to prison for something he didn’t do. Will never know if he did it or not, you want to think best of someone but never know. Understand the risk as fighting & losing though. Easier to just take 10 years on list & year in jail/ probation & eventually get life back....

Not saying I want him. Talent & all, way to much backlash for an awful act. Just pointing out their is a different reasons to a guilty plead that would cause someone who is innocent to consider taking. Regardless to if he did or not, that label will never leave him & follow him & his team around.


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Posted: June 05, 2018, 4:05 PM Post
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Love the Rasmussen pick. I’d consider introducing him in 2019 with a Hader-like role. 2-3 IP twice a week. Over time the team can make a better determination of his role.

As for Heimlich, a part of me is thoroughly disgusted and a part of me believes he deserves a chance. MLB scouting and security bureaus do a tremendous job and they likely know far more than we ever will.


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Posted: June 05, 2018, 5:37 PM Post
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brooks_quichenick said:
15 is old enough to know that sexually abusing a 6 year-old is wrong. He shouldn't be allowed to play pro baseball at all in my opinion.

All I will say is that science has shown that the human brain isn't fully developed until around age 25.


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Posted: June 05, 2018, 6:50 PM Post
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Why not draft Heimlich? Where exactly are we suppose to draw moral line? Just looking at the Brewers we have a nice slate of questionable moral decisions made by our players.

-Jeremy Jeffress has a substance abuse problem and drove drunk.
-Ryan Braun proved to be a pretty terrible human for a little while.
-K-Rod best a woman/wife I believe?
-Domestic violence across the league multiple times.

What he did is seriously messed up don’t get me wrong. He was young though and while he probably knew it was wrong he might not have understood the magnitude of wrong. He was at a confusing age 13-15 when he did it. Despite popular belief not everyone was as mature as the typical person at the age.

Does he deserve a chance? I don’t know. I don’t know that the PR hit is worth it. I don’t really get how some people deserve second chances, but others are automatically scum. Some people are applauded after doing wrong if they try to make up for it...doubt this kid would get a warm welcome if he tried to do anything good.

Once again I’m not sure what to think of him. I just find it interesting how much hate this wrong doing gets while the majority just doesn’t care about DUIs, cheaters, liars, and domestic violence in this sport. Heck we celebrate and remember Jose Fernandez who did hard drugs and possibly/probably killed some of his friends crashing a boat under the influence. His number will hang in the rafters forever.


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Posted: June 05, 2018, 6:52 PM Post
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Joey Meyer Bombs said:
brooks_quichenick said:
yoyomayoma said:
Don't want any part of Heimlich.


Yup. Stay far away from this guy


What he did was horrid. There is no way anyone should condone that. But ... he was 15. Should the kid pay the rest of his life for his idiocy as a 15-year-old? Tough question ... but many would say he already is.

The kid has shown huge regret. I don't know that the team's system is in such a state that they couldn't use a 1st round talent who will sign cheap and is looking for redemption.



Not sure that he's shown huge regret in that he's saying now that he did not actually do it and that it was his family and lawyers who told him to sign a confession saying he did it because the risk was a lengthy legal process and a potential jail sentence that would not have been pleasant given the circumstances. With regard to how long he should suffer being that he was 15 years old....that's a valid point. And I don't even know how to begin to answer that question.


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Offline  Re: 2018 Draft Pick Discussion, Rounds 6-20
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Posted: June 05, 2018, 6:56 PM Post
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MrTPlush said:
Why not draft Heimlich? Where exactly are we suppose to draw moral line? Just looking at the Brewers we have a nice slate of questionable moral decisions made by our players.

-Jeremy Jeffress has a substance abuse problem and drove drunk.
-Ryan Braun proved to be a pretty terrible human for a little while.
-K-Rod best a woman/wife I believe?
-Domestic violence across the league multiple times.

What he did is seriously messed up don’t get me wrong. He was young though and while he probably knew it was wrong he might not have understood the magnitude of wrong. He was at a confusing age 13-15 when he did it. Despite popular belief not everyone was as mature as the typical person at the age.

Does he deserve a chance? I don’t know. I don’t know that the PR hit is worth it. I don’t really get how some people deserve second chances, but others are automatically scum. Some people are applauded after doing wrong if they try to make up for it...doubt this kid would get a warm welcome if he tried to do anything good.

Once again I’m not sure what to think of him. I just find it interesting how much hate this wrong doing gets while the majority just doesn’t care about DUIs, cheaters, liars, and domestic violence in this sport. Heck we celebrate and remember Jose Fernandez who did hard drugs and possibly/probably killed some of his friends crashing a boat under the influence. His number will hang in the rafters forever.


I’m glad you’re not running the team. Comparing Braun to a child rapist is almost comical.


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Posted: June 05, 2018, 6:58 PM Post
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https://deadspin.com/mlb-prospect-luke- ... 1825831942

I'm sure most have seen this, if it hasn't yet been posted, but it's just confusing to me. The Judge actually says after the end of the diversionary program that he deserves a big round of applause and he got one from the courtroom.

There's just too many questions about this kids actions when he was 15 IMO to ban him effectively from every playing professional baseball as many would do(including Keith Law who said as much today).


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