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2017 Draft Pick Discussion, Rounds 1-5

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Posted: June 15, 2017, 9:59 AM Post
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I didn't want to start a new thread, but curious about general thoughts from our draft experts here. Lots of good info has been posted in various places, but interested if anyone would want to summarize. What stands out to you? Any trends, interesting picks, etc. Thoughts about the top picks, etc.

I guess this year I'm just having a problem getting my arms around this draft...


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Posted: June 15, 2017, 11:02 AM Post
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The Brewers continued their organizational philosophy of taking players up the middle. CF, SS, 2B. Others have mentioned it, the Brewers went for ceiling especially in the mid-late rounds. No playing it safe. It seemed to me that the Brewers wanted at least one top tool from their draftees. I did not see too many jack-of-all trades and masters of none. This year was very HS heavy compared to previous years. With such a deep farm system, the Brewers could afford to take these risks and avoid the typical roster filler that is common in the later rounds.


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Posted: June 15, 2017, 11:12 AM Post
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I would expect the Brewers to sign fewer - perhaps many fewer - draft picks this year after signing 37 last year. I would expect the number of signings being closer to 30, if not 25.

With 19 high school picks, and with 7 of those picks occurring after the 20th round, you're probably looking at 6-10 of those guys not signing. A few of the college picks probably won't sign either, which brings that total of unsigned picks to 8-12. Splitting the difference, I would guess the Brewers won't sign about 10 guys, which makes 31 draft picks signed.

I suppose there's a possibility that the Brewers have pre-draft deals with most of the high school picks and they've figured out how to shoehorn all these guys in without going into draft pick penalty for their bonus pool. I was surprised at how many high school guys they inked last year - maybe they have a similar trick up their sleeves this year.


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Posted: June 15, 2017, 11:37 AM Post
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I would expect the Brewers to sign fewer - perhaps many fewer - draft picks this year after signing 37 last year. I would expect the number of signings being closer to 30, if not 25.


Do I remember from spring training that they had an unusually high number of kids that didn't get assigned to full season ball, or am I wrong on that? It also looks like they have five or six kids up from the DSL squad plus signings like Saint and Castaneda. Frankly, it doesn't seem like they have a ton of room for a full draft class even if they let a few folks go.

I think the number of high school picks is a direct reflection of that. They don't need a ton of guys knocking on the doors of the full season rosters right now.


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Posted: June 15, 2017, 11:51 AM Post
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That's exactly right. They have a limited amount of roster space, even for the short season clubs. This is from the MiLB website somewhere - I had this copied and pasted into a workbook and I can't find the link offhand:

Advanced rookie clubs: 35 players. No more than 30 players may be used in a single game. As of July 1, the Active List must include at least 10 pitchers. No more than 12 players may be 21 years old or older, and no more than two players may be 23 years old or older. No player may have more than two years as a professional, and no player may have three or more years of minor-league service time.

Rookie clubs: 35 players. No more than 30 players may be used in a single game. As of July 1, the Active List must include at least 10 pitchers. No more than 8 players may be 20 years old or older, including two drafted players and four undrafted players who are at least 21 years old. No player may have more than two years of minor-league service time.

Currently the Brewers have 18 active players on the Helena roster and 32 (!) players on the Maryvale roster. (Assuming the aforementioned DSL guys are there, plus a few other signings that haven't been reflected on the MiLB.com roster yet.

There will be some DL assignments. Probably half a dozen or more for the AZL club. But even if DL-ing guys brings the AZL roster down to 25, there are only 27 open roster slots currently available in rookie ball for the Brewers.

So like I was saying, about 30 guys. Unless the Brewers all of the sudden decide to add a second AZL team, though I believe it's too close to the season to do that.


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Posted: June 15, 2017, 12:03 PM Post
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That's exactly right. They have a limited amount of roster space, even for the short season clubs. This is from the MiLB website somewhere - I had this copied and pasted into a workbook and I can't find the link offhand:

Advanced rookie clubs: 35 players. No more than 30 players may be used in a single game. As of July 1, the Active List must include at least 10 pitchers. No more than 12 players may be 21 years old or older, and no more than two players may be 23 years old or older. No player may have more than two years as a professional, and no player may have three or more years of minor-league service time.

Rookie clubs: 35 players. No more than 30 players may be used in a single game. As of July 1, the Active List must include at least 10 pitchers. No more than 8 players may be 20 years old or older, including two drafted players and four undrafted players who are at least 21 years old. No player may have more than two years of minor-league service time.

Currently the Brewers have 18 active players on the Helena roster and 32 (!) players on the Maryvale roster. (Assuming the aforementioned DSL guys are there, plus a few other signings that haven't been reflected on the MiLB.com roster yet.

There will be some DL assignments. Probably half a dozen or more for the AZL club. But even if DL-ing guys brings the AZL roster down to 25, there are only 27 open roster slots currently available in rookie ball for the Brewers.

So like I was saying, about 30 guys. Unless the Brewers all of the sudden decide to add a second AZL team, though I believe it's too close to the season to do that.


Hiura to Wisconsin Timber Rattlers, perhaps?


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Posted: June 15, 2017, 12:04 PM Post
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Or Hiura to the operating room for TJ surgery and start fresh next year.


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Posted: June 16, 2017, 1:52 PM Post
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Or Hiura to the operating room for TJ surgery and start fresh next year.
Hypothetically couldn't he join the T-Rats and DH, and by the time the playoffs come round send him to the OR, so he's ready for spring. I like the idea of him getting his feet wet in pro ball this season, and depending on how he's doing he could jump to Carolina or stay in Appleton next year at 100%.


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Posted: June 16, 2017, 3:46 PM Post
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Meet the Milwaukee Brewers’ 5th Round Pick Nick Egnatuk
When Nick got his call, he was in the chair getting a tattoo
Brad Ford, BrewCrewBall.com


Great job by Brad in the series for BCB!

Meet the Milwaukee Brewers’ 2nd Round Pick Caden Lemons
Lemons is ready to do whatever it takes to help the Brewers
Brad Ford, BrewCrewBall.com

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Meet the Milwaukee Brewers’ 4th Round Pick Brendan Murphy
Murphy started packing for college, then he got the call from the Brewers
Brad Ford, BrewCrewBall.com

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And as also posted in the Rounds 6-20 thread --

Meet the Milwaukee Brewers’ 7th Round Pick Bowden Francis
Francis' draft was an experience shared with his brother
Brad Ford, BrewCrewBall.com


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Brief post-draft VIDEO interview: 2nd round pick RHP Caden Lemons


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Posted: June 17, 2017, 7:42 AM Post
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madbad2000 said:
Or Hiura to the operating room for TJ surgery and start fresh next year.
Hypothetically couldn't he join the T-Rats and DH, and by the time the playoffs come round send him to the OR, so he's ready for spring. I like the idea of him getting his feet wet in pro ball this season, and depending on how he's doing he could jump to Carolina or stay in Appleton next year at 100%.


Why are we performing TJ surgery on someone who doesn't need it? He only had a partial tear, those can and have heeled on their own. Tyler Thornburg had the same thing and didn't get TJ, and he's a pitcher.

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I'd assume Keston would go to Advanced-A. I mean he is considered quite advanced and they sent Corey Ray to Advanced-A so I don't see how he wouldn't end up there too.


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Posted: June 17, 2017, 9:35 AM Post
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MilwaukeeBeers said:
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Or Hiura to the operating room for TJ surgery and start fresh next year.
Hypothetically couldn't he join the T-Rats and DH, and by the time the playoffs come round send him to the OR, so he's ready for spring. I like the idea of him getting his feet wet in pro ball this season, and depending on how he's doing he could jump to Carolina or stay in Appleton next year at 100%.


Why are we performing TJ surgery on someone who doesn't need it? He only had a partial tear, those can and have heeled on their own. Tyler Thornburg had the same thing and didn't get TJ, and he's a pitcher.

I don't think anyone knows if he needs surgery or not. Hiura had a platelet-rich plasma injection in April. He hasn't played in the field since, so I don't think anyone really knows how well his injured arm is doing. He said it doesn't bother him - but you never know what will happen until he gets into game action.

I'm guessing they will assess the arm once he signs, they will do an assessment and go from there.

Tommy John surgery recovery usually takes about 6 months for a position player. If they decide TJ is the best thing to do, and time frame is the estimate for Huira, you have the option to put off surgery until the minor league season is over - getting him a couple of months of action in 2017 - just playing DH.

You do the surgery, then Huira has six months (September-Feb.) to recover before spring training. Of course, that's cutting it close, and assumes no setbacks.

The other option is to do the surgery right away, and give him 8-9 months to recover - so he's ready to go without any issue come spring training.


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Posted: June 17, 2017, 11:43 PM Post
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Good thing is with DH he could play all season & continue to heel arm if wanted. Then evaluate come September. Of course he is getting checked out now to see if it is something they need done for sure. If so, get it done now so he is good to start Spring next season.


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Posted: June 18, 2017, 11:31 AM Post
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If there's a question why not just get it done? He will be ready to start next season and you don't risk misdiagnosing him or having something happen that makes it worse (ala Taylor Williams). The last thing I want is for them treating him and "hoping" it works only to have it not work and all of a sudden he's going to surgery next June or July and missing half a season. It's my understanding he needs a lot of work defensively so having him DH doesn't really do him much good.


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Posted: June 19, 2017, 3:02 PM Post
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2nd rounder Caden Lemons has reached a deal to sign with the Brewers


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Posted: June 19, 2017, 3:29 PM Post
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Source on the Lemons signing.

http://vestaviavoice.com/sports/caden-l ... rs-061917/


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Posted: June 19, 2017, 5:27 PM Post
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Is it me or should we have heard about more signings by now.


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Posted: June 19, 2017, 5:52 PM Post
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I wouldn't worry about. Unless an injury comes up, I'd be extreme surprised if the Brewers didn't sign all of their top 10, probably even top 12, picks.

On a related note, 5th rounder Nick Egnatuk has signed.

https://twitter.com/djacksbaseball/stat ... 4751223813


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Posted: June 19, 2017, 6:27 PM Post
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When will we know the dollar figures on these signings?

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