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Posted: July 10, 2018, 10:24 PM Post
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Austin Tatious said:
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i can't remember a year where this many brewers draftees are going to go unsigned


Good point. However, as someone who was very critical in real time with the Brewers' approach for years with the draft, and for good reason as has been proven, I think you will see a dramatic upturn with results from the draft starting with the last couple of years.

You don't need to go underslot in the first round. You can go over, and still manipulate other signings to snag some mid top ten round talents later (past round 10) by saving money on seniors, injured, etc. I have no problem at all with picking up more upside guys even if the total number of guys being signed is much lower. I like the quality over quantity idea.

There is a huge uptick in the Brewers' savvy in manipulating the dollar value of drafted (or internationally signed for that matter) guys, to the benefit of getting more upside guys while concomitantly signing fewer filler players. Any individual player may boom or bust, but if you get the numbers right, you can hit on some percentage of the guys, and you're going to succeed by having more legit talents developing.

I think our draft results will be a 180 degree turnaround going forward, and we will have some more talent in the system, enough for trades and to rejuvenate the roster with youth every year. That's the sweet spot we are headed into going forward.


Well said.


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Posted: July 11, 2018, 6:07 AM Post
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Austin Tatious said:
Crash2303 said:
i can't remember a year where this many brewers draftees are going to go unsigned


Good point. However, as someone who was very critical in real time with the Brewers' approach for years with the draft, and for good reason as has been proven, I think you will see a dramatic upturn with results from the draft starting with the last couple of years.

You don't need to go underslot in the first round. You can go over, and still manipulate other signings to snag some mid top ten round talents later (past round 10) by saving money on seniors, injured, etc. I have no problem at all with picking up more upside guys even if the total number of guys being signed is much lower. I like the quality over quantity idea.

There is a huge uptick in the Brewers' savvy in manipulating the dollar value of drafted (or internationally signed for that matter) guys, to the benefit of getting more upside guys while concomitantly signing fewer filler players. Any individual player may boom or bust, but if you get the numbers right, you can hit on some percentage of the guys, and you're going to succeed by having more legit talents developing.

I think our draft results will be a 180 degree turnaround going forward, and we will have some more talent in the system, enough for trades and to rejuvenate the roster with youth every year. That's the sweet spot we are headed into going forward.


That's why I continue to say that the posters worried about "gutting" the farm system through major trades are off base. Prospects are replaceable, especially now that they actually have a solid scouting staff and good draft decision makers in place. Just look at how much talent has been brought in since 2016 ... it's astonishing.


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Posted: July 14, 2018, 12:11 AM Post
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Joey Meyer Bombs said:
Austin Tatious said:
Crash2303 said:
i can't remember a year where this many brewers draftees are going to go unsigned


Good point. However, as someone who was very critical in real time with the Brewers' approach for years with the draft, and for good reason as has been proven, I think you will see a dramatic upturn with results from the draft starting with the last couple of years.

You don't need to go underslot in the first round. You can go over, and still manipulate other signings to snag some mid top ten round talents later (past round 10) by saving money on seniors, injured, etc. I have no problem at all with picking up more upside guys even if the total number of guys being signed is much lower. I like the quality over quantity idea.

There is a huge uptick in the Brewers' savvy in manipulating the dollar value of drafted (or internationally signed for that matter) guys, to the benefit of getting more upside guys while concomitantly signing fewer filler players. Any individual player may boom or bust, but if you get the numbers right, you can hit on some percentage of the guys, and you're going to succeed by having more legit talents developing.

I think our draft results will be a 180 degree turnaround going forward, and we will have some more talent in the system, enough for trades and to rejuvenate the roster with youth every year. That's the sweet spot we are headed into going forward.


That's why I continue to say that the posters worried about "gutting" the farm system through major trades are off base. Prospects are replaceable, especially now that they actually have a solid scouting staff and good draft decision makers in place. Just look at how much talent has been brought in since 2016 ... it's astonishing.


Don't forget, with future stability in LF, CF, RF, 1b, 3b, and several pitching spots, the Brewers will have a finite amount of spots over the next several years. Excess players--even if currently in the plans--can be traded and hopefully replaced with good scouting and development


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Posted: July 14, 2018, 9:54 AM Post
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My only concern is that more and more guys with a good bat are being rushed to the majors and stuck in corner OF to hide their defensive deficiencies, and the glut of corner OFs (except for the very elite) is going to make it hard to trade OFs. (On top of that, it makes them lest costly to acquire.)

Do Phillips, Ray, Grisham, etc., have a good enough bat to play corner OF? They have a ways to go to demonstrate that. Ray is on a power tear - .603 SLG over his last 20 games - but only .310 OBP over those last 20 games. There are questions about Ray being able to stick in CF; if he can't... the hit tool needs to get better.

And if other teams don't value OF range/speed... then they have less perceived value to other teams. Maybe they can be traded, maybe not.

The key is going to be continuing to hit on pitchers in rounds 3-5 and 10-13. The Webb/Burnes/Brown draft could be the most impactful in the history of the org, the trades of some of those guys (Thornburg, Wagner) have been critical to the rebuild, and hitting on a few later round guys (Woodruff, Yamamoto, Banda) have provided valuable depth and trade chips.


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Posted: January 14, 2019, 8:47 PM Post
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Looks like the A's messed up big time.


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Posted: January 15, 2019, 8:29 AM Post
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JosephC said:
Looks like the A's messed up big time.


They took a gamble and worst case scenario happened. I don't think he was projected to be such a high pick in the NFL when they drafted him. If Murray wasn't getting such high draft grades he probably would go the NFL. But now he can get a huge signing bonus in the NFL and get a hefty pro salary instantly. I also don't see the short career thing people are concerned about. You can get paid good money to sit on a bench in the NFL and not get touched more than 20 times in a season. If he flops that bad in the NFL he would have plenty of time to revive his baseball career.


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Posted: January 15, 2019, 5:24 PM Post
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No one foresaw the season that Murray had. He went from a part-time transfer to winning the Heisman. His season was one of the greatest ever put together - at least statistically. 1000+ yards rushing, 12 TDs. 4000+ yards passing, 42 TDs. That's staggering.

Personally, I hope he plays football. He may become a great baseball player, but he's still only one guy. He doesn't get extra at bats or whatever. As a quarterback, he has input and effect on every single offensive play. To me, it's a no brainer - assuming that Murray likes football as much as baseball.


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