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2017-07-16: Phillies (Hellickson) at Brewers (Garza) 1:10 PM CDT [Brewers lose, 5-2 after Webb gives up grand slam]

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Posted: July 16, 2017, 2:11 PM Post
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A 2-1 game and Scahill and Webb are your first arms in. I just don't get it. Pitching change with the bases loaded and nobody out. Hughes to try to get a ground ball? Hader to try to get a couple K's? No, let's go with the career AAA lefty with 6 career innings making his Brewer debut. Makes sense.


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Posted: July 16, 2017, 2:11 PM Post
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Pitch the #7 and #8 bullpen guys, and even the Phillies offense can torch you.


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Posted: July 16, 2017, 2:12 PM Post
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Well that got ugly in a hurry


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Posted: July 16, 2017, 2:13 PM Post
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Webb not making a good impression. Grand slam from someone named Nick Williams!


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Posted: July 16, 2017, 2:13 PM Post
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Is this Manny Parra on the mound?


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Posted: July 16, 2017, 2:14 PM Post
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Hader and Hughes not pitching during leads in 6th?


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Posted: July 16, 2017, 2:14 PM Post
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Get Webb outta there!

Yankees didn't do the Crew any favors giving up this guy.


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Posted: July 16, 2017, 2:14 PM Post
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That was a perfect spot for Hader and his strikeout ability too.

Cards' fans wear jorts.


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Posted: July 16, 2017, 2:16 PM Post
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6 hits in 17 pitches


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Posted: July 16, 2017, 2:19 PM Post
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trwi7 said:
That was a perfect spot for Hader and his strikeout ability too.


I was kind of hoping they would not go to Hader because there is no way he doesn't walk in a run or two there. I'm not sure Webb is the way I would have gone though. Scahill is just awful, don't know how he is still on the team. 5.94 xFIP before this game and it has to be well over 6 now. More walks thank Ks, too many HR. There just isn't anything about him that suggests he can do even a mopup job for the team. He really needs to be replaced.


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Posted: July 16, 2017, 2:19 PM Post
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Too bad there is that rule where you can only bring in your best relief pitcher in the 9th inning, no matter what the score/situation is in the 6th inning. Counsells hands were tied


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Posted: July 16, 2017, 2:20 PM Post
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- Walks more than he strikes out
- FIP over 6 (coming into today, who knows what it is now)

That's the guy you turn to in the 6th in a 1 run game with 8 options in your pen.

Scahill should not be on an MLB roster, and if he is it should never, ever be in anything other than mop up duty.


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Posted: July 16, 2017, 2:25 PM Post
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4 innings vs. the Phillies bullpen. Still time for runs.


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Posted: July 16, 2017, 2:27 PM Post
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To be fair Barnes and Knebel already pitched 2 games in a row. I would not bring them in to that game in the 6th because of that either. If you are going to pitch them 3 times and then have to go a day without them you better be sure you still have the lead late.

The other options in the bullpen were fair game though. Scahill may be the worst RP in MLB so you can't ever go to him unless you are already down 10 or something.


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Posted: July 16, 2017, 2:31 PM Post
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Scahill should be only on mop-up duty or not here at all. Blazek was doing well and got sent down because of options. Don't agree with it and it shouldn't be the norm.


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Posted: July 16, 2017, 2:39 PM Post
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Please shut up about the '82 Brewers already.


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Posted: July 16, 2017, 2:40 PM Post
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That was strike three.


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Posted: July 16, 2017, 2:41 PM Post
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Aside from the first pitch grand slam and the two singles, Webb looked pretty good!


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adambr2 said:
Please shut up about the '82 Brewers already.


The 1982 team is the point of this weekend.


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Posted: July 16, 2017, 2:42 PM Post
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That was strike three.


If it was Travis Shaw at the plate, who apparently has insulted the umpire's mother at some point in the past, you can bet it would have been.


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