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2018 Draft Pick Discussion, Rounds 1-5 [7/5 -- 1st rounder Turang signs]

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Posted: June 12, 2018, 11:13 AM Post
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I'm curious, who does the bolding of the info on the draft selection/signing thread? I see a number of higher picks listed as signed in that thread including Bello, yet I've seen no confirmation on that from any other source. I'm wondering where the information is coming from.


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Posted: June 12, 2018, 11:24 AM Post
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http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/201 ... selection/

Bello said he was signing, though you're right that it hasn't come from an official source. I would expect that to change in the very near future.


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Posted: June 13, 2018, 1:12 PM Post
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Oops, looks like Micah Bello deleted his Tweet. But he's signed, and we're expecting some more today.


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https://twitter.com/MicahBello8/status/ ... 1371259904

This tweet will work, either way Bello is signed officially.


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Posted: June 13, 2018, 6:09 PM Post
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Ashby is signed
https://twitter.com/aaron150__/status/1 ... 01824?s=21


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2:07 I liked it. I'm not the biggest Joe Gray fan because I saw him swing and miss against good pitching a lot throughout his amateur career, but he's been a known guy for a long time and you could argue we nitpitcked him to death. At worst he has a traditional power/projection right field profile, which is a fine thing to draft in the second round, and Gray has a better chance to stay in CF than most prospects like that because his feel out there is good and might enable him to stay there even if he slows down.
I also really like Bello and Ashby.


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Posted: June 15, 2018, 11:15 AM Post
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4th-rder Aaron Ashby signs w/@Brewers for $520k (pick 125 valoue = $438,300). Crowder (Mo.) JC LHP, led jucos in K (156) & K/9 (18.8), curveball is his strikeout pitch, also added velo & had 91-94 mph fastball at end of season. Andy Ashby's nephew, Tennessee recruit. @MLBDraft


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Posted: June 15, 2018, 1:44 PM Post
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Micah Bello signed for $550k, about $275k less than slot value, according to Jonathan Mayo.


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5th-rder Justin Jarvis signs w/@Brewers for $327,100 (full pick 155 value). North Carolina HS RHP, low-90s fastball should add more velo as he fills out projectable frame, deceptive changeup with fade. UNC Wilmington recruit. @MLBDraft


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Posted: June 15, 2018, 2:32 PM Post
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Turang strikes me as an Alcides Escobar/Orlando Arcia with speed and OBP skills.

If he goes back to his old swing, I could see a .280/.380/.345 line, a .725 OPS. Not the best, but if he can add 25-30 steals, that would be something I can live with at short.

Then again, maybe he gets a power surge like JJ Hardy did. He's 18... plenty of time to develop.


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I really don't like how people on Twitter are making it seem like Turang is going to be a difficult sign. I have to imagine that there were lengthy discussions about the number before we actually drafted him. Just get it done!


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Posted: June 15, 2018, 3:50 PM Post
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I really don't like how people on Twitter are making it seem like Turang is going to be a difficult sign. I have to imagine that there were lengthy discussions about the number before we actually drafted him. Just get it done!

I'm sure they have a general numbers worked out. There may be some variability depending on what others nearby sign for.

Also at this point a college offer isn't a huge amount of leverage. There just isn't that much of a chance of improving his draft status and a whole lot of chances to see it drop. Also if he does progress in college it a way that would make him a higher pick, he could do the same in the minors and be on the verge of the majors. Unless there was some undiagnosed injury or illness, I have to think he will sign shortly.


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Posted: June 15, 2018, 8:28 PM Post
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MillerParkSouth said:
I really don't like how people on Twitter are making it seem like Turang is going to be a difficult sign. I have to imagine that there were lengthy discussions about the number before we actually drafted him. Just get it done!

I'm sure they have a general numbers worked out. There may be some variability depending on what others nearby sign for.

Also at this point a college offer isn't a huge amount of leverage. There just isn't that much of a chance of improving his draft status and a whole lot of chances to see it drop. Also if he does progress in college it a way that would make him a higher pick, he could do the same in the minors and be on the verge of the majors. Unless there was some undiagnosed injury or illness, I have to think he will sign shortly.

While it is typical for teams to come to a financial agreement before they draft players in the first round (especially high schoolers), I am not certain that was the case in this instance. Maybe it isn’t credible, but there has been at least one report that the Brewers allegedly did not discuss a financial framework with Brice Turang before selecting him (AUDIO via Tiger Rag Podcast: Turang discussion starts at the 8:45-mark). If Turang is indeed asking for $4 million and the Brewers are holding out at closer to $3 million, I could see it taking a bit of time while each side waits for the other to flinch.

I do believe Turang will sign with the Brewers, and would place the odds of him signing at >95%. Still, I think we could see something like the situation with LSU pitcher Alex Lange last year when he waited until the final minutes of the deadline to sign with the Cubs.


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Initially missed this Tom Haudricourt comment yesterday afternoon. Not quite sure if Haudricourt’s “to have any chance” comment is a product of actual inside information or simply an opportunity to build dramatic tension? Perhaps some combination of the two.

#Brewers have saved some slot money with early signings. Might need it to have any chance of signing first rounder Brice Turang.


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Posted: June 16, 2018, 10:36 AM Post
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And That said:
Micah Bello signed for $550k, about $275k less than slot value, according to Jonathan Mayo.

I kind of figured this to be the case (under-slot signing) as this appeared to be a bit of an over-draft along with Bello's early indications that he was signing. Kind of odd to do an underslot HS kid in the 2nd round, but it happens in the first round so maybe not so strange.


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Looks like the Brewers have saved a nice chunk of excess money to give both Turang and Gray over the slot deals. The Brewers can show both that they essentially did “all they could do” to get them the most money they could get in the way the system works.


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Posted: June 17, 2018, 9:11 AM Post
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Initially missed this Tom Haudricourt comment yesterday afternoon. Not quite sure if Haudricourt’s “to have any chance” comment is a product of actual inside information or simply an opportunity to build dramatic tension? Perhaps some combination of the two.

#Brewers have saved some slot money with early signings. Might need it to have any chance of signing first rounder Brice Turang.


Not buying it. We loved Turang and have loved him for years. He was probably one of the top guys on our board including everyone that went before him. I don’t buy it for a second that the Brewers didn’t talk to a guy they have adored for years about what his signing bonus wants were.

Passing up our offer just wouldn’t make a lot of financial sense. Going to LSU for three years will slow down his development to some degree. I have a hard time believing that is worth gambling for a little more money in 3 years.

Unless he has some crazy plan to go to junior college for a year he will be signing. If he doesn’t I wish him the best of luck on a highly questionable decision.


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Area scouts had Jarvis as a potential early-round target early in the spring before stuff settled some. Was floated as a potential seven-figure guy as late as April, but limited track record likely kept decision makers light on the profile. Good upside get for #Brewers.


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As always, consider the source and decide for yourself in these instances...

A senior writer for LSU’s Rivals website (TigerBait.com) mentioned via a Tweet that “Turang will go right down to the deadline.”


Also probably worth noting, Jordyn Adams just became the first 1st round draft pick (among the first 30 picks) this year to sign for over-slot value. Understandably the guys that sign for over-slot value are going to require a longer process as teams need to guarantee their allotted pool money (and up to 5% taxed overage) are in order before signing those players.


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Posted: June 19, 2018, 11:18 PM Post
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Just trying to think of the pros for both Turang signing or not signing.

Signing: pro is obviously adding another top 10 organizational prospect, hope another solid SS who can stick at the position, hopefully still leaves some of the under slot $$ that's been saved with the guys who have already signed, to be able to sign some other guys in rounds 11+

Not signing: with the Brewers getting the compensation pick in the post-round 2 portion of the draft this year, this means they get the competitive balance pick after round 1 in 2019, correct? So this would mean, if things shake out roughly the same as things stand right now, they could be looking at something like picks 22 (from not signing Turang?), 25, and 38? 3 picks between 22 and 40 would allow them to get quite creative next year. For this year, as they've already signed a lot of guys under slot, and might be able to use that savings to bring in Cabell or some of the other round 11+ guys if Turang doesn't sign, that could also be a positive for this year.

Either way, I feel like it's a win-win.


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