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2021 Draft Pick Discussion, Rounds 1-10

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Posted: July 12, 2021, 2:56 PM Post
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Brewers latest pick..
Raabe, Zack
Minnesota (MN)
2B
R/R

didn't someone famous write this? https://www.usabaseball.com/news/topic/ ... th-gophers


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Posted: July 12, 2021, 2:56 PM Post
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Another college bat with more BB than K last year. Started insanely hot and then just hit a wall and his average plummeted to .315 (was mid-.400s after the first month of the year).


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Posted: July 12, 2021, 3:14 PM Post
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One thing to keep in mind with these JuCo picks is how messed up the last year has been for athletes. Most high school and college athletes missed the 2020 season. Many HS players lost their college spots due to returning players. So there should be quite a bit of talent at JuCo, especially the ones that didn't want to be at the end of the bench at a 4-year school.


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Posted: July 12, 2021, 3:17 PM Post
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There are some pretty highly ranked college players left. Would be encouraging to see one drafted with the hope maybe they'd have a shot to sign one.


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Posted: July 12, 2021, 3:18 PM Post
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PeaveyFury said:
"A true freshman, Henderson pitched McLennan (Texas) CC to the second Junior College World Series championship in school history. He took MVP honors at the Series after winning two eight-inning starts, striking out 14 against Florence-Darlington (S.C.) Tech in the first round and 17 against Central Arizona in the finals. That capped a season in which he led all national juco pitchers in strikeouts (169) and innings (97 2/3) while ranking second in strikeout rate (15.6 per nine innings) and third in ERA (1.66). Henderson's out pitch is a plus changeup that arrives in the low 80s with tumble and fade. His fastball sat at 88-92 mph for much of the spring but picked up a couple of ticks of velocity and topped out at 95 at the Junior College World Series, and it dodges barrels thanks to high spin rates that produce plenty of armside run. He also can spin a mid-70s curveball with better shape than power. Though Henderson throws three pitches for strikes and creates deception with a short arm action, he's also an undersized right-hander with no projection remaining. Analytic teams may be more impressed with his fastball than radar guns are, but clubs may want to see how he fares against better competition. He could return to McLennan or follow through on a commitment to Texas A&M if he doesn't sign this summer."

Interesting a scout grade of 60-50-55-50 turns in to overall 40. Because 5-11 is undersized and don't believe projection left....At age 19.


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Posted: July 12, 2021, 3:24 PM Post
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Yount19 said:
Brewers latest pick..
Raabe, Zack
Minnesota (MN)
2B
R/R

didn't someone famous write this? https://www.usabaseball.com/news/topic/ ... th-gophers


More info on Raabe:

The son of former big leaguer Brian Raabe, Zack batted .463 and led NCAA Division I with 31 hits in 17 games during the shortened 2020 season. He hit .431 in the first month of this season before going into a tailspin and finishing at .315/.407/.532 with six homers in 36 games. Scouts love the righty-swinging Raabe's feel for the barrel and his makeup, but the rest of his tools are fringy and he's limited to second base.


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Posted: July 12, 2021, 3:25 PM Post
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9th rounder is South Carolina RHP Brannon Jordan:

Jordan starred for two years at Cowley County (Kan.) CC and was drafted in the 31st round by the Rays in 2019. While he can flash a mid-90s fastball and a plus slurve at times, his velocity was down to 88-92 mph for much of this season and he had problems finding the strike zone. He barely uses his changeup and projects more as a reliever than a starter in pro ball.


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Posted: July 12, 2021, 3:37 PM Post
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Doesn't the rounds after 10 start the drafting un-signables stretch? Just start gobbling up top 100s that are committed to College?

Oh and btw that 8th rd choice and writeup sounds like a great pick there.


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Posted: July 12, 2021, 3:40 PM Post
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Wes Clarke first baseman South Carolina


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Wes Clarke MASHES. Love the pick.


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Posted: July 12, 2021, 3:45 PM Post
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They announced Clarke as a catcher. Interesting.


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Posted: July 12, 2021, 3:51 PM Post
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More on Clarke:

Though Clarke tied for the NCAA Division I lead with 23 homers and has obvious strength, scouts aren't sure how his player will play in pro ball. He does draw walks and has had success with wood bats in summer leagues, but he has an uphill right-handed stroke that gets beat by quality fastballs and most offspeed pitches. He's limited athletically and a subpar defender at first base.


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Posted: July 12, 2021, 4:07 PM Post
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I guess I like this draft?

Pick #1: Mild disappointment
Picks 2-4: Great
Picks 5-11: Nothing to see here

Usually there is 1-2 guys in rounds 4-10 worth paying attention to but not so much this year. I think Fangraphs will rank Frelick as our #3 prospect, though I would probably put him in the 6-10 range at best. Black and Binelas can probably be in the 15-20 range, Russell Smith just outside top 20 and the rest definitely outside the top 30.


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Posted: July 12, 2021, 4:12 PM Post
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Basically agree although I think Black is in the 6-8 range.


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Posted: July 12, 2021, 4:14 PM Post
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umphrey said:
I guess I like this draft?

Pick #1: Mild disappointment
Picks 2-4: Great
Picks 5-11: Nothing to see here

Usually there is 1-2 guys in rounds 4-10 worth paying attention to but not so much this year. I think Fangraphs will rank Frelick as our #3 prospect, though I would probably put him in the 6-10 range at best. Black and Binelas can probably be in the 15-20 range, Russell Smith just outside top 20 and the rest definitely outside the top 30.


Personally, I think you are undervaluing Frelick a bit - as I would clearly put him somewhere in our top 3 prospects. I'm guessing Black will slot somewhere in the 4-8 range on our list, and then I'd probably put Binelas somewhere in the 8-12 range in our system. No way, I'm ranking Binelas any lower than Lutz right now.


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Posted: July 12, 2021, 4:33 PM Post
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Have they mentioned anything about not targeting high school players? I can understand last year because of the pandemic but 2019 did not yield a high schooler until the 9th round and not taking any this year I am guessing this is now an organizational philosophy?


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Posted: July 12, 2021, 4:33 PM Post
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umphrey said:
I guess I like this draft?

Pick #1: Mild disappointment
Picks 2-4: Great
Picks 5-11: Nothing to see here

Usually there is 1-2 guys in rounds 4-10 worth paying attention to but not so much this year. I think Fangraphs will rank Frelick as our #3 prospect, though I would probably put him in the 6-10 range at best. Black and Binelas can probably be in the 15-20 range, Russell Smith just outside top 20 and the rest definitely outside the top 30.


Personally, I think you are undervaluing Frelick a bit - as I would clearly put him somewhere in our top 3 prospects. I'm guessing Black will slot somewhere in the 4-8 range on our list, and then I'd probably put Binelas somewhere in the 8-12 range in our system. No way, I'm ranking Binelas any lower than Lutz right now.


I think he's really similar to David Hamilton and Hamilton is outside our top 10


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Posted: July 12, 2021, 4:43 PM Post
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How I'd slot our top 15 prospects after day 2...

1. Garrett Mitchell | OF
2. Ethan Small | LHP
3. Tyler Black | 2B/3B
4. Sal Frelick | IF/OF
5. Brice Turang | 2B/SS
6. Hedbert Perez | OF
7. Aaron Ashby | LHP
8. Mario Feliciano | C
9. Jeferson Quero | C
10. Antoine Kelly | LHP
11. Alex Binelas | 3B/1B
12. Freddy Zamora | SS
13. Zavier Warren | C/3B
14. Eduardo Garcia | SS
15. Tristen Lutz | OF


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Posted: July 12, 2021, 4:47 PM Post
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Zavier Warren is a good example of why I only have 1 of these guys sniffing the top 10. He was our 3rd round pick last year and hitting .266/.405/.578 so how do you put someone like Binelas ahead of him?


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Posted: July 12, 2021, 4:53 PM Post
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umphrey said:
Zavier Warren is a good example of why I only have 1 of these guys sniffing the top 10. He was our 3rd round pick last year and hitting .266/.405/.578 so how do you put someone like Binelas ahead of him?


People put too much stock in the number next to the name. It's more tier based. Binelas and Warren are in the same tier. Call me tomorrow and that order could change.

Tier 1
Garrett Mitchell

Tier 2
Ethan Small
Tyler Black
Sal Frelick
Brice Turang

Tier 3
Hedbert Perez
Aaron Ashby

Tier 4
Mario Feliciano
Jeferson Quero
Antoine Kelly

Tier 5
Alex Binelas
Freddy Zamora
Zavier Warren

Tier 6
Eduardo Garcia
Tristen Lutz
Jackson Chourio
David Hamilton
Joe Gray Jr

Tier 7
Hayden Cantrelle
Jesus Parra
Luis Medina
Carlos Rodriguez


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