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2018-06-24: Cardinals (Weaver) at Brewers (Chacín) 1:10 PM CDT [Brewers lose, 8-2]

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Offline  2018-06-24: Cardinals (Weaver) at Brewers (Chacín) 1:10 PM CDT [Brewers lose, 8-2]
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Posted: June 24, 2018, 7:03 AM Post
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Cardinals Lineup		Brewers Lineup

1. Matt Carpenter (L) 3B 1. Eric Thames (L) 1B
2. Greg Garcia (L) SS 2. Christian Yelich (L) CF
3. José Martínez (R) 1B 3. Ryan Braun (R) LF
4. Marcell Ozuna (R) LF 4. Travis Shaw (L) 3B
5. Yadier Molina (R) C 5. Hernán Pérez (R) RF
6. Dexter Fowler (S) RF 6. Jonathan Villar (S) 2B
7. Harrison Bader (R) CF 7. Erik Kratz (R) C
8. Kolten Wong (L) 2B 8. Orlando Arcia (R) SS
9. Luke Weaver (R) P 9. Jhoulys Chacín (R) P


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Posted: June 24, 2018, 9:00 AM Post
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Pretty ugly looking lineup today. But our "A" lineup has produced 2 runs in back to back games so we'll see what happens.


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Posted: June 24, 2018, 9:28 AM Post
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Perez, Villar, Kratz, Arcia, Chacin is our 5-9. Woof.

Here's to a plate of crow this afternoon I hope? Sidenote: I wonder how Santana feels not getting at bats up here then seeing Hernan Perez getting starts in RF not even 48 hours after he is sent down..


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Posted: June 24, 2018, 9:58 AM Post
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Sure looks like CC is throwing in the towel on a series win today...

Aren't all games important when in a playoff race?

I hope I am 100% wrong, but I don't like this approach at all.


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Posted: June 24, 2018, 10:03 AM Post
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CC always looks like he's throwing in the towel on Sundays, but the pitching matchup greatly benefits us and I think we will win this one. I was not a fan of the Chacin signing but he has proven me wrong up to this point.

"You're not going to have him when you want him and you're going to run out of games. He can't pitch 90 games. It's just not going to work. If anyone thinks it's going to work, show me how."- Craig Counsell on Josh Hader.


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Posted: June 24, 2018, 10:18 AM Post
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Perez in RF and Aguilar on the bench? Seriously? It would be so much better to rest Aguilar when Cain is back and move Thames to 1B. Someone needs to hide CCs calendar so he doesn’t know it’s Sunday


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Posted: June 24, 2018, 10:33 AM Post
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Let's assume CC just wants to give Aguilar a day off against a righty, as he likes to do with players from time to time to keep them fresh and to make sure 'bench' players get semi-regular playing time, is there anything else people are egregiously upset about with this lineup? Seems like a lot of complaining because one guy is getting a day off with 86 games to go in the season, lol.


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Posted: June 24, 2018, 10:38 AM Post
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MrAllen said:
Let's assume CC just wants to give Aguilar a day off against a righty, as he likes to do with players from time to time to keep them fresh and to make sure 'bench' players get semi-regular playing time, is there anything else people are egregiously upset about with this lineup? Seems like a lot of complaining because one guy is getting a day off with 86 games to go in the season, lol.


Also seems like you need to read closer when I said to give him a day off when Cain is back. I didnt see any post that said Aguilar should never be out of the lineup


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Posted: June 24, 2018, 10:44 AM Post
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Coin flip game. Maybe they win, maybe they lose. I have an offer out on a new home so I am hoping it is entertaining to keep my mind off the wait.


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Posted: June 24, 2018, 11:12 AM Post
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Devinep said:
MrAllen said:
Let's assume CC just wants to give Aguilar a day off against a righty, as he likes to do with players from time to time to keep them fresh and to make sure 'bench' players get semi-regular playing time, is there anything else people are egregiously upset about with this lineup? Seems like a lot of complaining because one guy is getting a day off with 86 games to go in the season, lol.


Also seems like you need to read closer when I said to give him a day off when Cain is back. I didnt see any post that said Aguilar should never be out of the lineup

Didn't miss that, just curious if the timing of one player's day off was the only issue you (and others) are upset about. It's a long season, we have a deep bench with lots of guys that are going to need to be contributors if we're going to maintain this success, I just find it hard to be upset (or even irked) about a single player being in or out of the lineup at this point.

That said, what else is there to complain about in an in-game thread before the game's even started? [wink] Let's get this game started! Go Crew!


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Posted: June 24, 2018, 11:20 AM Post
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I think the biggest gripe is that we are already missing Cain, why not rest Jesus when the line-up is more in tact, not rest him the same day that Cain is off.

Every bat matters... Every game matters, as we found out last season.


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Posted: June 24, 2018, 11:53 AM Post
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Totally agree that every game matters, but I think CC's doing what he thinks he needs to do to make sure we have our best chance to win in games later in the season as well and I think we'll have to just agree to disagree that sitting one player is "throwing the game". We've got a pitcher going that's 4-1 with a 2.33 ERA and 1.02 WHIP in his last 9 starts and a lineup that includes OPS's of 1.157, .900, .845, .807, .786, and .783 against righties in the past 38 games (super hand picked timeframes, but still true and relevant). Not to mention we have a weapon in Aguilar to come off the bench whenever CC wants later in the game. I think there's still an okay chance we can take this one.


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Posted: June 24, 2018, 12:01 PM Post
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Counsell on giving Aguilar a day off:
Here's how Craig Counsell broke down the decision to give Jesús Aguilar a breather today: "He needs a day. We have to understand this is a big man and we’ve got to give him some days off. That’s how I’ll put it."


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If The Jesus says he needs a day, I'm inclined to give him a day off.


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Posted: June 24, 2018, 12:18 PM Post
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Yikes.... tough start for the crew...


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If The Jesus says he needs a day, I'm inclined to give him a day off.


I mean it is the sabbath.


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Posted: June 24, 2018, 12:21 PM Post
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Thames doesn't catch that. Sitting Aguilar already paying dividends.

"You're not going to have him when you want him and you're going to run out of games. He can't pitch 90 games. It's just not going to work. If anyone thinks it's going to work, show me how."- Craig Counsell on Josh Hader.


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Posted: June 24, 2018, 12:22 PM Post
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How about a big 10 run inning to start off?

"You're not going to have him when you want him and you're going to run out of games. He can't pitch 90 games. It's just not going to work. If anyone thinks it's going to work, show me how."- Craig Counsell on Josh Hader.


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Posted: June 24, 2018, 12:23 PM Post
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Well that inning certainly could have been worse.


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Thrilled to get out of that inning with only one run surrendered.

Alright team, let's get on the board early today


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