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2011-07-08 Reds (Leake) at Brewers (Greinke) - [Brewers, Kotsay walkoff winners off F. Cordero, 8-7]

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Posted: July 08, 2011, 6:44 AM Post
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Pitching Matchup

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Mike Leake

8-4, 4.03

Leake retired 11 in a row until he issued two walks in top of the sixth and both runners later scored to take away a quality starter. Manager Dusty Baker believed the heat and running the bases in the bottom of the fifth affected Leake.

Brewers vs. Leake
Leake Game Log

Zack Greinke

7-3, 5.66

Greinke surrendered 11 earned runs in eight innings during the Brewers' last road trip, but he's 5-0 lifetime at Miller Park. He won his only career start against the Reds on May 31.

Reds vs. Greinke
Greinke Game Log

Starting Lineups

  1. CF Drew Stubbs
  2. SS Edgar Renteria
  3. 1B Joey Votto
  4. 2B Brandon Phillips
  5. RF Jay Bruce
  6. 3B Scott Rolen
  7. LF Chris Heisey
  8. C Ryan Hanigan
  9. RHP Mike Leake
  1. 2B Rickie Weeks
  2. CF Nyjer Morgan
  3. RF Corey Hart
  4. 1B Prince Fielder
  5. 3B Mat Gamel
  6. LF Mark Kotsay
  7. SS Yuniesky Betancourt
  8. C Jonathan Lucroy
  9. RHP Zack Greinke

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Posted: July 08, 2011, 6:47 AM Post
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Well, looks like Roenicke finally got it right. Gamel hitting 5th and playing over McGehee, and Betancourt hitting 7th. I'd prefer he hit 8th, but it's better than 5th or 6th. If Braun was in there it would still look a lot better, but hopefully he will tomorrow. Time for another retro uni win.

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Will the real Zack Greinke please stand up?

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Hate the lineup. 3 straight lefties, terrible. I don't like taking Weeks out of the leadoff spot but in this case he should be #2. Stacking those lefties is making things way to easy on the Reds.

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Posted: July 08, 2011, 7:15 AM Post
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Hate the lineup. 3 straight lefties, terrible. I don't like taking Weeks out of the leadoff spot but in this case he should be #2. Stacking those lefties is making things way to easy on the Reds.
Terrible? C'mon. I realize it's now traditional to rip on the lineup hours before the start of every game, but let's have some perspective. If and when it ever got to the stage, late on, when Dusty was bringing in a lefty for Prince, I'm sure either Gamel or Kotsay will be pulled for either McGehee and/or Gomez anyway. Sheesh!


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I realize it's now traditional to rip on the lineup hours before the start of every game

Not everybody rips on the lineup for every game. There is always somebody who will not like the lineup.


I'm sure either Gamel or Kotsay will be pulled for either McGehee and/or Gomez anyway.

How is pulling Gamel for either of those guys good? Why force a situation on yourself if you don't have to? If you split up the lefties you force the other guy to make adjustments instead of yourself. Make him react while doing nothing yourself. He either has to walk a guy or bring in a different pitcher which would work too your advantage. 3 lefties in a row is terrible strategy.

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Technically they should have Lucroy in between Gamel and Kotsay, but oh well. Roenicke never gets it completely right.

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Technically neither Gamel or Kotsay should be playing. Why must this team pound square pegs into round holes?


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Will the real Zack Greinke please stand up?

"Bump bump bump bump bump.....bump bump.....bump bump.............we're gonna have a problem here"

I think everyone's fear is that the real Zack Greinke has been standing up. Prove those doubters wrong Zack! A nice efficient 7 inning, 2 run performance would do just fine.


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Simple solution to the three lefties; don't be in late inning situation where it matters. Problem solved.


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I really hope Mat doesn't have any errors today. Errors are bad, but errors when Zack is pitching seem to compound things for the worst.

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Prince does OK against righties, Gamel doesn't have enough MLB ab's to tell me if he can hit lefties or not, and Kotsay can't hit lefties or righties. The three lefties don't bother me. All things considered this is a pretty good lineup. If Braun were available you could plug him in at 3, Hart at 5, Gamel at 6, and remove Kotsay.


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Why put three left handed hitters in a row? Why can't 5-8 look like this?

Lucroy
Gamel
Betancourt
Kotsay

Three lefties in a row is just asking for Chapman later in the game.

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Braun might be available to pinch hit. That's a promising sign.

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Prince does OK against righties, Gamel doesn't have enough MLB ab's to tell me if he can hit lefties or not, and Kotsay can't hit lefties or righties.
Which is why you assume that like most other hitters he will hit opposite handed pitching better. Best case scenario is that Gamel's power will be mostly nullified.

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I know Greinke's been inconsistent this year, but this a very important series and if he can shut down the Reds tonight it will be a big step in the right direction.


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Greinke will be fine


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I know Greinke's been inconsistent this year, but this a very important series and if he can shut down the Reds tonight it will be a big step in the right direction.

At least they put a good defense behind him.

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