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Posted: October 28, 2011, 2:39 PM Post
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let the official where Prince will land thread start.


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Posted: October 28, 2011, 2:47 PM Post
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jason21nl said:
Not sure this has been talked about much, but this game should not be being played in St Louis.

Agreed. NO wild card winner should ever have the privilege of having a home field advantage in the World Series. Nice rule you included into the All Star Game, Bud Selig. St. Louis can fall off the map for all I care. In fact come Monday, I will forget who won the 2011 World Series and conclude that like the 1994 WS there was no winner, only losers.

Special shout out to those choking dogs of Texas. One dang strike, one $%+%$' strike.


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Posted: October 28, 2011, 3:04 PM Post
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I changed my avatar, because I was hating with all my might tonight. I need Silky Johnson's help for Game 7.

Silky Johnson, you have failed me for the last time.

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Posted: October 28, 2011, 3:53 PM Post
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I'm not too upset at this outcome. The World Series was exciting and the Cardinals were a compelling story line. Just like in '08, the Brewers lost their playoff series to the eventual World Series champion.


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Posted: October 28, 2011, 4:06 PM Post
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This was easily one of the best World Series... eseses... in my lifetime. I'm happy for Berkman, & Motte too -- Motte came across as a pretty likeable dude. Also, the David Freese storyline is amazing. Sportswriters everywhere were overcome with euphoria with that story, guaranteed -- it writes itself. I can just see the Rick Reilly story now...

"The key is identifying the moment. The worst is when you try to do it halfway: when you think you can compete and you also think you're trying to rebuild. Then you're stuck in no-man's-land. You either do it or you don't." -- Billy Beane


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Posted: October 28, 2011, 6:03 PM Post
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RedFlash2 said:
jason21nl said:
Not sure this has been talked about much, but this game should not be being played in St Louis.

Agreed. NO wild card winner should ever have the privilege of having a home field advantage in the World Series. Nice rule you included into the All Star Game, Bud Selig.
Whether a Wild Card winner should be able to have home field in a World Series is another question, but you do realize that if Bud had never instituted the All-Star home field advantage rule and they'd stuck with the just-as-random alternating-year rule that had been in place prior that St. Louis would still have home field advantage, right?

Anyway, it's hard for me to like Motte as he was the one who did TLR's evil bidding and plunked Braun


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Posted: October 28, 2011, 8:12 PM Post
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SeriesFinale said:
RedFlash2 said:
jason21nl said:
Not sure this has been talked about much, but this game should not be being played in St Louis.

Agreed. NO wild card winner should ever have the privilege of having a home field advantage in the World Series. Nice rule you included into the All Star Game, Bud Selig.
Whether a Wild Card winner should be able to have home field in a World Series is another question, but you do realize that if Bud had never instituted the All-Star home field advantage rule and they'd stuck with the just-as-random alternating-year rule that had been in place prior that St. Louis would still have home field advantage, right?

Anyway, it's hard for me to like Motte as he was the one who did TLR's evil bidding and plunked Braun
First: Rotating HFA for the World Series between the leagues is a lot better idea then letting HFA be the prize for winning a meaningless exhibition game during the season. Outside of the NBA All Star Game, none of the ASG will be popular or bring in huge waiting, so let's stop this crap of awarding HFA to the winner of the popularity contest?

Second: Why can't baseball go back to the days in which whoever had the best record, regardless of league, having HFA? Best record=HFA. But of course Bud Selig can't see it because it requires common sense, which apparently he has none.



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Posted: October 28, 2011, 11:16 PM Post
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Outside of that last game, which was a bit dull, that was a great World Series.

And honestly, outside of TLR, Carpenter and the minority in the crowd that does their bidding, I don't dislike St. Louis. Berkman is a pretty awesome guy, Freese is a great story.

Now, here's to Pujols signing a 15 year $400 million deal with the Cubs.


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Posted: October 28, 2011, 11:39 PM Post
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Now, here's to Pujols signing a 15 year $400 million deal with the Cubs.
No, no, no. Pujols needs to sign a 20 year $750 million deal with the Cards. I want to see that franchise crippled!!


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Posted: October 29, 2011, 3:38 AM Post
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Reverend Brewmeister, you forgot one more thing that's going to suck: April 6, 2012, the Brewers' next game - UNLESS Brewers fans get it together and don't sell out to STL fans who will be all too eager to flaunt their 2011 world champion crap in our faces, in our ballpark. Indeed, I will be only mildly surprised if the Cardinals don't petition MLB to let them have their ring ceremony or whatever on the MP grass, just to show Milwaukee.

Ahem. OK. I guess there's a degree of solace to be had in losing to the "eventual champion" (though that loses its sheen after the third time, or fourth if it also happened in 1981). Just as I've often said on this forum and in the chat room, STL 'tis no team, 'tis a remorseless baseball machine - and it's possible they were simply a juggernaut that couldn't be stopped down the stretch. That they stopped PHI first supports that theory.

I agree with pitchleague that Nyjer's infamous tweets may well have been the spark that got STL going. All a spark really had to do was get TLR going, because he is a most able motivator (even if I don't think he always uses his motivational skills for good). I won't blame the season outcome on Nyjer, but I'll be happier going forward if the Brewers can avoid that kind of trash talk.

I'm oddly OK with David Freese's success in the postseason. There are a lot of more vexing options on that roster. For his sake, I hope he doesn't get sucked into the cult of TLR.

Hot Stove programming on MLB Network begins on Monday. See you there.

Remember: the Brewers never panic like you do.


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Posted: October 29, 2011, 4:56 AM Post
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My only solace is that it wasn't the Cubs taking the Series.


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Posted: October 29, 2011, 5:19 AM Post
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RedFlash2 said:
First: Rotating HFA for the World Series between the leagues is a lot better idea then letting HFA be the prize for winning a meaningless exhibition game during the season. Outside of the NBA All Star Game, none of the ASG will be popular or bring in huge waiting, so let's stop this crap of awarding HFA to the winner of the popularity contest?

Second: Why can't baseball go back to the days in which whoever had the best record, regardless of league, having HFA? Best record=HFA. But of course Bud Selig can't see it because it requires common sense, which apparently he has none.
1. No it's really not; it's just as arbitrary, perhaps more so.
2. Well, the "regardless of league" thing is what's problematic, right? The NBA and NHL can do it because they have expanded inter-conference play. If and when MLB does this (and it sounds like it could happen as early as next year), then it makes more sense. Of course even then it's not totally perfect because you're dealing with divisional matchups that help skew the records, etc etc.


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