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Offline  Re: So what about Huntsville? Latest: Biloxi obtains stadium funds; purchase and subsequent move of Stars quite possible
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Posted: November 09, 2013, 2:17 AM Post
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This is all great news for Biloxi, but I still want to know whether or not they will get that coveted Bass Pro Shop. THAT would be huge!


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Consultant: Biloxi baseball stadium project a home run
By Warren Kulo, GulfLive.com

BILOXI, Mississippi -- Consultant Charles Johnson told a standing room only audience and the Biloxi City Council Tuesday that the city's proposed baseball stadium project is a home run.

Councilman George Lawrence, who has indicated he would prefer the stadium be built in east Biloxi, asked Johnson if his firm considered any other potential sites in Biloxi. Johnson said no, the focus of the report was the Beau Rivage property.

Councilman Kenny Glavan also asked if anything was left out of the report, given that it was completed in less than two weeks. Again, Johnson replied no, saying he simply put additional staff on the project to complete it more quickly.

Lawrence noted the study only estimated about 104 events at the stadium each year, meaning it would sit unused many nights "unlike a Bass Pro Shop. It's open 365 days. If we could get a Bass Pro Shop, that would be huge."


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Offline  Re: So what about Huntsville? Latest: Biloxi City Council Officially OK's New Ballpark Plan
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Posted: November 20, 2013, 10:59 PM Post
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Via today's brief note:

BILOXI, Miss. — The Biloxi City Council has set up a $1 million budget in advance of any spending for a baseball stadium.

David Nichols, city administrator, says no expenditures will be made until a team is purchased and all the documents are signed.

The Sun Herald reports the vote was 5-2 Tuesday creating the new capital project to track the expenses of the stadium. The action prepares to combine funding sources of $1 million in general fund money, $15 million in grant money from the state and $21 million in bond money to build the stadium.

Councilman Robert Deming III said the city has to be ready for the opening of the baseball season in 2015 and faces penalties if the deadline isn't met.

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In other words, we should know relatively soon if the Huntsville franchise is moving.


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Offline  Re: So what about Huntsville? Latest: Biloxi City Council Officially OK's New Ballpark Plan
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Posted: December 10, 2013, 7:13 PM Post
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http://blog.al.com/breaking/2013/12/huntsville_stars_move_to_bilox.html

http://whnt.com/2013/12/10/developing-huntsville-stars-move-to-biloxi-to-be-discussed-at-baseball-winter-meetings-wednesday/


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Offline  Re: So what about Huntsville? Latest: Buzz about plan at winter meetings
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Posted: December 11, 2013, 1:09 AM Post
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The Brewers' biggest friend in convincing the Biloxi ownership group to stay with Milwaukee in 2015 may be Stars' GM Buck Rogers. Hopefully they consult with Buck before that affiliation decicion is made:

Via Twitter:

Excellent reception by the Brewers tonight, always 1st class! No better organization in baseball when it comes to people! Bar none!

If baseball fans could see behind the scenes they would love the Brewers even more. Their commitment and word is golden! Like family.


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Posted: December 13, 2013, 12:04 AM Post
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VIDEO: Southern League owners voice concern over Stars' move approval still likely, though


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Offline  Re: So what about Huntsville? Latest: Buzz about plan at winter meetings
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Posted: December 13, 2013, 8:15 AM Post
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Losing these Stars can be best hope for Huntsville's baseball future (Mark McCarter column)


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Offline  Re: So what about Huntsville? Latest: Buzz about plan at winter meetings
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Posted: December 18, 2013, 9:30 PM Post
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http://whnt.com/2013/12/18/breaking-owners-approve-move-of-huntsville-stars-to-mississippi/


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Offline  Re: So what about Huntsville? Latest: It's official, Stars moving to Biloxi in 2015; Brewers affiliation? TBD
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Report: Huntsville Stars will relocate to Biloxi, Miss., starting with 2015 season
By Steve Doyle, al.com

The 10 owners of the Southern League reportedly voted Wednesday to allow the Huntsville Stars to be moved to Biloxi, Miss.

Huntsville Mayor Tommy Battle said Stars owner Miles Prentice apparently has been given "initial permission" to relocate to Stars to Biloxi starting in 2015. The upcoming 2014 season would be the minor league club's last at Joe Davis Stadium, although Battle said the city has not been officially notified.

"We have talked to baseball officials and are confident the city will have opportunities to bring in a new minor league baseball team to Huntsville," Battle said Wednesday afternoon. "Our conversations with baseball leadership have been positive. They tell us Huntsville is an important market because of its demographics, location, and tradition.

"With the right ownership and community partnership," said Battle, "we know baseball will thrive in Huntsville."

The Stars arrived in Huntsville in 1985 to play in what was then brand-new Joe Davis Stadium. They were the Double A affiliate of the Oakland A's before aligning with the Milwaukee Brewers 15 years ago.

Prentice, who lives in New York City, has been a mostly absentee owner of the Stars. He did not attend a single Stars home game last season.

Team officials stress that the Stars will be in operation in Huntsville in 2014 no matter the outcome of a sale. Sources throughout the Southern League have said they want Huntsville as a member because of its geography and tradition, recognizing the potential for success.

But the team has drawn poorly in recent years, and the club's lease with the stadium expires after next season.

The Biloxi City Council last week tabled a vote on a conditional use permit to build a new stadium north of the Beau Rivage Resort and Casino. The proposed stadium would cost $36 million -- $21 million in bonds, and $15 million from a BP grant pledged by Mississippi Gov. Phil Bryant.


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Offline  Re: So what about Huntsville? Latest: It's official, Stars moving to Biloxi in 2015; Brewers affiliation? TBD
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Posted: December 18, 2013, 9:37 PM Post
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Reminder -- Brewers AAA & AA affiliates could both be in new ballparks in '15, but only if partnerships are renewed w/Nashville & Biloxi by this fall.


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Posted: January 11, 2014, 6:11 AM Post
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So, as announced Friday, and no surprise if you've been with this thead since the beginning --

Southern League makes it official: Huntsville Stars' sale and move to Biloxi approved

Now we wait for the real news, which will hopefully be an extension of a Player Development Contract with the Brewers, which could be announced at any time, but no later than this fall, shortly after the regular season ends.

(The same goes for Nashville.)

So there will be multiple stories on ground-breakings and a contest to name the Biloxi team, etc., but until we learn the state of the Brewers' future relationship with the AAA and AA ownership groups, future stadium-related stories will mean little.


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Offline  Re: So what about Huntsville? Latest: It's official, Stars moving to Biloxi in 2015; Brewers affiliation? TBD
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Posted: January 11, 2014, 4:48 PM Post
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What is everyone opinion will the Brewers see these new stadiums in 15?


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VIDEO: Hunter Morris discusses his hometown Huntsville Stars moving to Biloxi in 2015


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Offline  Re: So what about Huntsville? Latest: VIDEO: Hunter Morris discusses his hometown team's move to Biloxi
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Posted: January 12, 2014, 1:02 AM Post
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Buck Rogers said this is a devastating blow to the staff. It has left a lot of them wondering what is going to happen next, but they will use this last season to make Huntsville shine and try to bring in a new team.

You do feel for the Stars small but hard-working staff. The comment above is part of a video news report that includes brief on-air comments from Buck. We wish all our friends in Huntsville well.


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Offline  Re: So what about Huntsville? Latest: VIDEO: Hunter Morris discusses his hometown team's move to Biloxi
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Via BrewCrewBall -- a lot of words, but worth the read considering all the effort put into it.

One Way or Another, the Brewers Will Have a New Double-A Team Next Year

Really not sure why the author considers Nashville and Milwaukee a secure renewal on the AAA level, though.


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Offline  Re: So what about Huntsville? Latest: VIDEO: Hunter Morris discusses his hometown team's move to Biloxi
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Posted: January 20, 2014, 2:35 PM Post
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You're right good read long though and i was curious why he believes Nashville is going to get Renewed.


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Offline  Re: So what about Huntsville? Latest: VIDEO: Hunter Morris discusses his hometown team's move to Biloxi
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Posted: January 22, 2014, 1:16 PM Post
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Well, this is an encouraging tweet from Mississippi sportswriter Creg Stephenson:

"Biloxi owner Ken Young says team will "most likely" remain Milwaukee Brewers affiliate, but final decision won't come til September."

It's going to be a long wait for confirmation, but that's the first indication of any kind on the matter.

Now because it's an existing relationship, the Biloxi ownership group (and Nashville's, for that matter), don't have to wait until September to extend the relationship, they could do so at any time. Certainly the Biloxi folks want to get to know the Brewers, and thankfully current Stars GM Buck Rogers continues to tout their virtues.

The longer Nashville waits, that will get a little antsy, though.

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Creg also tweets info on Biloxi baseball's Twitter account and web site, should you wish to follow or add to your favorites.


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Posted: January 22, 2014, 6:53 PM Post
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From Wikipedia:

Beau Rivage is a waterfront casino resort in Biloxi, Mississippi, USA. It is owned and operated by MGM Resorts International. Beau Rivage was rebuilt and re-opened in 2006, a year after Hurricane Katrina.

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The new Biloxi ballpark will be called "MGM Park at Beau Rivage", or by most (certainly us here), simply MGM Park.


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Offline  Re: So what about Huntsville? Latest: Biloxi "most likely" will remain Brewers affiliate, but final decision won't come til September
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Posted: January 25, 2014, 11:05 PM Post
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Hey there. I'm the dude who wrote that fanpost for BCB. Thanks for reading it through. It was certainly long-winded, as the original intention was an article rather than fanpost. I was originally going to pitch it to a regional publisher, but decided that it would be best served by going right to people who are most likely to actually care/know about the Brewers' farm system. Plus, I wouldn't have to take the time to revise/trim that piece.

A few of you were wondering why I assumed that the Nashville PDC would be renewed, and I want to clarify that I did not assume this would happen. (in fact, from that article: "I probably should not make this assumption")

I've had a hunch that this relationship will continue, and I think that's mostly from observing what happened in September 2012. If you remember, the Sounds and Crew were stalemating and Melvin was talking about facilities and such. It went on for while, but at a certain point it became obvious that there would be a renewal. Why? Because neither team had anybody else to turn to. The Sounds might prefer a PDC with a team like the Braves or Cardinals, but it isn't going to happen. The Crew may prefer another club, but which? There may be more options this fall, and I'll mention those below.

I'm jumping in here because I want to share a few thoughts/updates and see what Brewerfan minor forum regulars think.

- Interesting news that Melvin and Morris have been invited to the Sulphur Dell groundbreaking. If the invitation is accepted, that's as good as a handshake agreement, right?

- If not, what other AAA scenarios are we looking at? I would love to see Albuquerque or Salt Lake with the Brewers, but I don't think either will happen. The Mets got burned when they lost Buffalo to Toronto in 2012, and their default was Las Vegas. This year, the Twins and Red Wings have an expiring PDC. Though it would not be surprising in the least to see these two teams renew, it's within the realm of reason to suggest that Rochester and the Mets may have mutual admiration. This could free up the Vegas option, but I'd prefer the Sounds over that train wreck (or should I say UFO wreck) in the desert any day. At least I can watch the Sounds games online--even if their visual broadcast consists of one stationery camera in the press box that makes Caleb Gindl look like an ant.

- But there is one entertaining scenario that involves a return to old AAA friend, the New Orleans Zephyrs; as their PDC with the Marlins lapses this year as well. NOLA is a stone's throw from Biloxi.

- Back to the subject of Double-A. It sounds like Biloxi might be in our future, and if so let's celebrate it. If not, let's hope for another Tennessee team. I've officially given up on Richmond and all other Eastern League teams. I had an email exchange earlier this week with Ben Hill from MiLB.com, and he said, "one thing regarding Richmond is that there won’t be a new stadium there until 2016 (at the very, very earliest). So if the Brewers ended up there they’d once again have their Double-A team operating in one of the worst facilities at that level." Yep. Ben is a little more in the loop, whereas I'm just a regular reader of ballparkbiz. Their stadium deal has hit all kinds of snags, so let's say goodbye to the Squirrels.

Please post your thoughts on any/all of these subjects. Curious to hear some more Brewer fan viewpoints.


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Offline  Re: So what about Huntsville? Latest: Biloxi "most likely" will remain Brewers affiliate, but final decision won't come til September
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Posted: January 25, 2014, 11:38 PM Post
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I think Biloxi and the Crew will be done,bit i still think the Brewers and Nashville will be a match.


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Posted: January 26, 2014, 2:59 AM Post
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AlMaFi said:
I would love to see Albuquerque or Salt Lake with the Brewers, but I don't think either will happen.


Welcome to the forum here.

Just curious on why you'd like to see the Brewers AAA affiliation move to a less-neutral offensive environment than Nashville (more difficult to analyze true level of production on the field), less convenient for AAA / AA proximity to each other (convenient for roving instructors, transfers, etc.), and moving to a later time zone.


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